Ah, but the government CAN tax us to fund environmental conservation programs.
-Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:16 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: SUV break? > > > See Adam this is one of the big differences between the US and > England. The government is not supposed to use tax as a method > to curb consumer choice here. As a matter of fact on of the > issues that kicked off our little argument back in the 1700s was > taxation of goods if you remember. As well as an attempt to disarm us. > > Hmmm Sound familiar? > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:57 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: SUV break? > > > In the Uk a litre of petrol is about 75p. You are looking at > close to ?3 for > a gallon or about $4.50 per gallon. The US I think pays around $2 per > gallon. > > People with your argument over here choose to purchase Estate cars, > particularly Volvos, as the running costs are so much lower. > > The USA is completely up its own arse when it comes to this > issue. If the US > government put an environmental tax on petrol/gas that put the cost of gas > up to $3+, you would find the whole I need a SUV cos argument go > away as it > is bull and realistically is an image thing. > > You would also find that there would be greater consumer demand > for cheaper > alternative, rather than states (i.e. California, LA I think) > having to put > things into law to force manufactures to invest in alternative fuel cars. > > As to your emissions argument. It's the CO2 that is at issue here. Older > cars release more toxic gases, but it is the amount of C02 that > is produced > that is at issue here. A 100% clean emission from a car is CO2 and H2O. So > that argument is bull as well. > > Adam > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 22 January 2003 14:27 > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: SUV break? > > > > > > I have an SUV (Chevy Blazer). I bought it for several reasons. > > > > 1. I am in the National Guard. That means every month I have to > > lug all kinds of gear several hours away to go train. The room issue. > > > > 2. I have 2 children. The room issue. > > > > 3. I (at the time of purchase) was living in rural NC. While > > snow wasn't a major issue, storms, floods, and icing were. The > > safety issue. > > > > 4. I did a lot of contracting. This meant that I had computers > > and all sorts of accessories to carry around. The room issue again. > > > > 5. I have 2 children. The safety issue. > > > > I looked at a lot of vehicles before I bought my truck. It was a > > toss up between an Explorer, Blazer or a Santa Fe. I went with > > the Blazer with a 6 cylinder. What's funny is the Camaro that I > > previously drove, the one with the 350 Small Block, wasn't > > getting any heat from environmentalists, even though it used far > > more fuel, and was loud and fast. Now that I have a newer 6 > > cylinder with better emissions control I get flack. It's a bunch > > of bs if you ask me. I mean I have seen major studies that show > > how with proper maintenance modern vehicles have very low > > emissions, and you can get good mileage out of most vehicles by > > doing things like making sure your tires are inflated, using > > additives and such. The same studies also showed that most > > emissions come from older beaters not from newer trucks or even > > high performance cars. > > > > Now do peeps all need their excursion or suburban? Maybe not. > > But this is a free country damn it. If they want to drive a damn > > monster truck down the road that's their prerogative. > > > > I mean seriously people, I know that a lot of the left leaning > > people think that government is here to tell people right from > > wrong. That its place is to enforce 'society's wishes'. That's > > not what this country is supposed to be about. Here it's > > supposed to be individual rights first and foremost. > > > > bah some of you really suck :) > > > > Tim Heald > > Sovereign Individual :P > > > > "Bite me!!" T.H. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:00 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: SUV break? > > > > > > I wouldn't say that, I would get a hybrid car if it was > > reasonably priced. > > I think a lot of people get SUVs because they are the in thing > > today. Not so > > much that they even care about the gas mileage. It's not until > after they > > have the car for a while do they realize exactly how much more > money they > > are spending on gas. They really need to make a hybrid SUV, that > > would prob > > make them up around regular car gas mileage. > > > > Robert Everland III > > Web Developer Extraordinaire > > Dixon Ticonderoga Company > > http://www.dixonusa.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:51 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: SUV break? > > > > > > The only thing I see SUVs hauling are soccer moms and spoiled > > businessmen... > > > > And isn't America great. A land where if you have the money you > > are free to > > buy what you want. > > > > Since you felt the need to make a generalization, I might as well to. > > > > The only people I see driving hybrid cars are tree huggining > > environmentalist wackos. > > > > I mean c'mon even with a $5000 tax rebate nobody wants them. > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
