There are certain times when I hate the ACLU, when I watch them defend someone who I think is undefendable, but I think that they may be our best freind in this.
-----Original Message----- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:49 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Patriot Act II What also bothers me about this proposed law is the arbitrary nature of it. If, for example, you contribute to an orphanage that may get some of its money from a group declared as a terrorist organization, you can have your citizenship removed for a charitable act. Moreover, since its the government declaring a group a terrorist organization, what's to stop it from declaring the opposing party a terrorist organization and disenfranchising all those who voted for the opposition. larry At 07:46 AM 3/10/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I wasn't aware that the constitution made any provision for removing your >citizenship. I mean how can you even do that? We don't even do it to those >convicted of treason. > >Tim > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:49 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Patriot Act II > > >http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/03/06/findlaw.analysis.mariner.patriotII/index. h >tml > >So what does everyone think of this law? >I find this disturbing > >Among Patriot II's most worrying provisions are those affecting citizenship. >Section 501 of the bill, deceptively titled "Expatriation of Terrorists," >would provide for the presumptive denationalization of American citizens who >support the activities of any organization that the executive branch has >deemed "terrorist." While it is already illegal to provide material support >to such groups, even for their lawful activities, such support is considered >grounds only for criminal prosecution, not for the loss of citizenship. > > >-- >Bill Wheatley >Senior Database Developer >Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer >Ediets.com >ICQ - 417645 >Aim - Bill Ediets >954-360-9022 x159 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
