War crimes doesn't cover the actual act of war, only your conduct during it.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:47 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: WOW? It's funny you mention that. I was wondering, since some nations are claiming this is an illegal war, and since people are being tried for war crimes in the haig, does that mean US Soldiers loose the "I was only following orders" defense? Tim -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:21 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: WOW? Of course most good americans will support the troops. Even the troops who disagree with the decision will support what they are told to too. Dubya tells the iraqis just following orders isn't a good reason but its the only thing the US troops can do. I am sure we'll prevail i hope we very light casualties i want all my friends and family home in one piece. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Ousterhout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: RE: WOW? Bill, The 48 hours may be more for the very small hope that the generals, realizing that if they help they may be able to retain some power & position, throw the bum out. Also, he needs to give Britain time to debate in parliament. So 48 hours is really nothing much. And I don't believe that the military is at all underestimating how ugly the city fighting will be. Fortunately, the expectation is that most of the troops will surrender, leaving a much smaller although very well trained republican guard. Lets all keep our thoughts and wishes that this ugly matter be resolved with the minimum of casualties on both sides. If you know anyone with family in the battle, please give them your support. I friend of mine has a nephew who is a green beret and was in Afghanistan and is now in Kuwait. He commented that the troops were starting to get the feeling that the people back home weren't behind them and that that was very demoralizing. So even if you don't believe in the decision, please support the solders who will be suffering, hurting and dying. Andy -----Original Message----- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:12 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: WOW? huh tractor tell us more? Yea i know i find it crazy that we broadcast all this crap i mean we basically gave saddam 48 hour notice thats crazy now he knows for sure its on and he can hit first or do something else nasty. I would have prefered if we just do it and then find out later we started its hard to keep secrets in todays world i guess at least secrets like a war and such :). And i think the Generals are going to be in for a big suprise i mean urban fighting as you probably know is still pretty much the same as it was in WWII & WWI it sucks our technology is way less of a factor in street to street fighting. Does anyone have to look back to stalingrad when the stupid germans had to try and take the city street by street? I mean its not going to be the same type disaster but just to show the point that urban fighting is going to take alot out of the troops. Maybe i could be wrong maybe we'll just sweep through and kick ass without many losses but for all our technology you have guys fighting room to room in a building you can run into ambushes you can run into things where our standoff weapons don't matter. Oh well i wish them all the best of luck, i hope the bonehead doesn't send too many of my friends and family to their deaths. My old boss if a FAC with a Marine Regiment who is on the move this morning. He's a major now and they pulled him from Inactive Reserves to come up and take over a FAC job, he used to be a chinook jockey but in Gulf War 1 he got pulled to be a FAC. Hopefully he is going to be alright, sitting in an Abrams is probably a pretty safe place about now. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: RE: WOW? T minus 48 hours (from 8:00 PM last night) until we take the gloves off. Kind of disturbing really. I mean the whole idea of fighting a war this way is really alien to me. We were always taught that force protection and not letting anyone know who what where or when were very important. I mean as it sits now you can go in any major news outlet's web site and get an order of battle for our forces, locations, key officers. It's insane from an intelligence perspective. Another thing that bothered me was what some of the talking heads had to say about the coming conflict. They had a retired general on NBC right after his speech who didn't think that the coming battle was any big deal. He though that we would just sweep right through Iraq and be done with it. Guess he never went on a patrol in a city. Don't misconstrue this to mean that I am against this action completely. I have some issues with it (most notably that no war is being declared, and I don't think that congress has the constitutional ability to hand off that responsibility to the president). However now that we are there, now that the decision has been made, we need to stop debating this as a country and support our troops. BTW how has the commute been this morning for all the DC members? All the roads around here are closed down for the moron on the tractor at the mall. I just wonder why they haven't tazed the kid and pulled him off the tractor. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:11 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: WOW? what did hw say, i missed it -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2003 12:08 To: CF-Community Subject: WOW? I come in this morning and see NO topics about dubyas talk last night? Man i was waiting and waiting and then finally there it was what i knew would pop out....the hitler reference :) -- Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer Ediets.com ICQ - 417645 Aim - Bill Ediets 954-360-9022 x159 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. 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