I know it is not steak, but it sure looks, smells and taste like steak.....

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:53 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Empire-Building


Well given a choice i think remembering is much better then forgetting...go
back into the matrix!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Ousterhout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: Empire-Building


It depends how you remember.  If you remember by passing down stories that
create continued hatred/distrust/ etc then you condemn yourself to repeat
the past.  And remembering the holocaust hasn't prevented it from happening
again.  Various versions of ethnic cleansing have occurred since with little
global actions to stop it.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:15 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Empire-Building


By not forgetting the past you can try not to repeat it again. REMEMBERING
the past and things like the holocaust help keep it from happening again not
PROMOTING it again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Ousterhout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: Empire-Building


This seems to be one of the issues in many countries.  This long memory for
past atrocities leads to present and future atrocities.  At what point in
time do you need to just get over it?  Move on.  You can not change the
past, only use it to prevent repeating it.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:54 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Empire-Building


Some things are harder to forget than others.

It took over 400 years to undo some of the things he did. The stories passed
down in County Cork are quite vivid, I assure you.

M

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:37 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Empire-Building


you talking about oliver cromwell? If so surely the memories can't be that
vivid? Cromwell was around in the 1500's





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