Lots of money to do hunting lol. I emailed about them having an improper WHOIS entry they should have their domain pulled but no because its the all powerful spews retards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:10 AM Subject: WTF :)Fw: PLEASE REPLY !
Bill Wheatley wrote: > Well its not going to be a mystery for too long. Someone I do work for at > nights is suing him and since the person(s) have failed to appear in > court Just curious, considering the below WHOIS output, how did that somebody you work for deliver the subpoena? spews.org whois-output: DOMAIN spews.org Registrar: JOKER.COM (CSL-GmbH as ICANN registrar) Status: production Handle: 551844 Owner Name: chip level domains Organization: Visit Lake Biakal! Address: po box 61, Baikalsk-2 Postalcode/City: 665914 Irkutsk region, -- 665914 State: Country: RU Owner contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrative contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Billing contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nameserver: created by caserv: 2001-07-07 15:50:12 modified by : db-updated: 2003-03-27 13:57:20 expires: 2003-07-07 15:50:12 > who knows what's going to happen with them. Nothing. Last time I checked the entire SPEWS organization was outside US jurisdiction (unless one of the unknown operators lives in the US, but we don't know that). > Now the things I don't like about spews these antispam zealots talk about > reforming your mailing practices yadda yadda. Yet ediets has some of our > mail servers listed as open relays when in fact they are not. SPEWS doesn't list open relays. It lists ISPs that don't respond to spam abuse reports. Check the FAQ. > Once you're on their little black list of death you can't get off it that > is what pisses meoff. Read NANAE for a while, there are plenty of ISPs that get out of SPEWS. Or check the old list: http://www.spews.org/news.html > They are bullshit elitists who think they know what is best for everyone Actually, they even state in their FAQ that it is just their opinion and warn people that using SPEWS will result in undesired side-effects. > and even then I wouldn't mind if you could get in touch with them > and get off the list. Trying to get the non-open relays off the list was > long arduous and just ended in getting mocked by the people who > eventually did reply to me. SPEWS does not list open relays, so that must have been with some other blacklist. And I have never seen a single complaint about an incorrect SPEWS listing take more as 1.5 hour to be corrected. > WTF is up with that a bunch of jackoffs who work for these big bandwidth > providers instead of doing their job all day they crusade on alt.abuse > and with spews and it just pisses me off. SPEWs should not be a roach > hotel (you come in but you don't come out) and I'm sorry but I'm never > going to accept that as fair or acceptable. I hope one day you get a > server of yours in spews simply because people don't like that you don't > use double optin Unlikely, I don't like double optin either :-) A little explanation on the differences between the optin types: single: anybody can opt you in by pretending to be you double: anybody can opt you in, they just have to do it twice confirmed: after initial opt in the opt in is verified by sending an email with a unique code to the opted in address. You are only listed if you answer with the unique code. > or because of your marketing practices RFC 3098 sets the standard. > Its just a power trip ohh look what we can do we can put anyone in here. They most certainly can. It has happened in the past that other lists put in domains for other reasons. I don't recommend those lists anymore. > I hope they loose their equipment in court for failure to appear. Quite unlikely. But if it happened, I would be happy to host them for free. Jochem ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
