What is SPEWS?

Matthew Small
IT Supervisor
Showstopper National Dance Competitions
3660 Old Kings Hwy 
Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
843-357-1847
http://www.showstopperonline.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:39 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: WTF :)Fw: PLEASE REPLY !

I can only say that I've received eDiets marketing email and I've never
visited the eDiets site and have never opted in. That, without a doubt,
is
spam. It doesn't matter if it came from eDiets server's or from those of
a
hired marketing company.

Sorry Bill. I know that your employers were there for you in a tight
spot,
and I know you aren't in marketing, but that doesn't change my opinion
of
them as a spammer.

As for SPEWS, I don't know what to think. I know that spam/UCE is a HUGE
problem and it appears that unfortunately it will take some extreme
measures
to combat it. When I got back from a vacation I did a count and 75% of
the
mail at my work account was spam and 100% at my personal account with
over
100 messages. IMHO, spammers negatively impact many millions of more
people
than SPEWS does. And yes, we've been blacklisted.

-Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:55 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: WTF :)Fw: PLEASE REPLY !
>
>
> Well its not going to be a mystery for too long. Someone I do work for
at
> nights is suing him and since the person(s) have failed to appear in
court
> who knows what's going to happen with them.
>
> Now the things I don't like about spews these antispam zealots talk
about
> reforming your mailing practices yadda yadda. Yet ediets has some of
our
> mail servers listed as open relays when in fact they are not.
> Once you're on
> their little black list of death you can't get off it that is
> what pisses me
> off. They are bullshit elitists who think they know what is best for
> everyone and even then I wouldn't mind if you could get in touch with
them
> and get off the list. Trying to get the non-open relays off the list
was
> long arduous and just ended in getting mocked by the people who
eventually
> did reply to me. WTF is up with that a bunch of jackoffs who work
> for these
> big bandwidth providers instead of doing their job all day they
crusade on
> alt.abuse and with spews and it just pisses me off. SPEWs should not
be a
> roach hotel (you come in but you don't come out) and I'm sorry
> but I'm never
> going to accept that as fair or acceptable. I hope one day you
> get a server
> of yours in spews simply because people don't like that you don't
> use double
> optin, or because of your marketing practices and then when you prove
you
> don't have an open relay you get mocked ridiculed and you stay on
there
> stupid list. Its just a power trip ohh look what we can do we can
> put anyone
> in here. Like their own personal prison to send people who they don't
like
> and if they don't change their ways I hope they loose their equipment
in
> court for failure to appear.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:37 AM
> Subject: WTF :)Fw: PLEASE REPLY !
>
>
> Bill Wheatley wrote:
> > LOL well I wish all of the crazy spews and such people a nice trip
off a
> > big cliff in a bag.
>
> Actually, I like SPEWS a lot and I don't think they are crazy. But it
is a
> bit hard to tell, because it remains a mystery who they are exactly
:-) If
> I could use SPEWS for my own email I would, but since I can not set
> blacklists per individual email address I unfortunately can not.
>
>
> > Threatening people personally is a pretty shitty/wrong thing to do
(you
> > didn't just that alot of these fanatic antispammers have). Ediets is
not
> > a spammer just because our execs don't do business the way some
would
> > approve it is still not spam
>
> Again, that is a matter of different definitions. And in my mailbox I
set
> the rules.
>
>
> > We can agree to disagree.
>
> That is just the easy way out :-)
>
> Jochem
>
> 

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