I can only say that I've received eDiets marketing email and I've never visited the eDiets site and have never opted in. That, without a doubt, is spam. It doesn't matter if it came from eDiets server's or from those of a hired marketing company.
Sorry Bill. I know that your employers were there for you in a tight spot, and I know you aren't in marketing, but that doesn't change my opinion of them as a spammer. As for SPEWS, I don't know what to think. I know that spam/UCE is a HUGE problem and it appears that unfortunately it will take some extreme measures to combat it. When I got back from a vacation I did a count and 75% of the mail at my work account was spam and 100% at my personal account with over 100 messages. IMHO, spammers negatively impact many millions of more people than SPEWS does. And yes, we've been blacklisted. -Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:55 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: WTF :)Fw: PLEASE REPLY ! > > > Well its not going to be a mystery for too long. Someone I do work for at > nights is suing him and since the person(s) have failed to appear in court > who knows what's going to happen with them. > > Now the things I don't like about spews these antispam zealots talk about > reforming your mailing practices yadda yadda. Yet ediets has some of our > mail servers listed as open relays when in fact they are not. > Once you're on > their little black list of death you can't get off it that is > what pisses me > off. They are bullshit elitists who think they know what is best for > everyone and even then I wouldn't mind if you could get in touch with them > and get off the list. Trying to get the non-open relays off the list was > long arduous and just ended in getting mocked by the people who eventually > did reply to me. WTF is up with that a bunch of jackoffs who work > for these > big bandwidth providers instead of doing their job all day they crusade on > alt.abuse and with spews and it just pisses me off. SPEWs should not be a > roach hotel (you come in but you don't come out) and I'm sorry > but I'm never > going to accept that as fair or acceptable. I hope one day you > get a server > of yours in spews simply because people don't like that you don't > use double > optin, or because of your marketing practices and then when you prove you > don't have an open relay you get mocked ridiculed and you stay on there > stupid list. Its just a power trip ohh look what we can do we can > put anyone > in here. Like their own personal prison to send people who they don't like > and if they don't change their ways I hope they loose their equipment in > court for failure to appear. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:37 AM > Subject: WTF :)Fw: PLEASE REPLY ! > > > Bill Wheatley wrote: > > LOL well I wish all of the crazy spews and such people a nice trip off a > > big cliff in a bag. > > Actually, I like SPEWS a lot and I don't think they are crazy. But it is a > bit hard to tell, because it remains a mystery who they are exactly :-) If > I could use SPEWS for my own email I would, but since I can not set > blacklists per individual email address I unfortunately can not. > > > > Threatening people personally is a pretty shitty/wrong thing to do (you > > didn't just that alot of these fanatic antispammers have). Ediets is not > > a spammer just because our execs don't do business the way some would > > approve it is still not spam > > Again, that is a matter of different definitions. And in my mailbox I set > the rules. > > > > We can agree to disagree. > > That is just the easy way out :-) > > Jochem > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
