They're really not as bad as one may think. Problem is, I can't talk about parts of it. There is good there and while it doesn't pay the bills, it is good will. I'd hate to lose that.
> dude worry about money and providing before you care about what MM thinks > about everything. > They haven't done jack for you except given you a spiffy title of team > Macromedia. Its just a title you get anything from it for free? Software? > support? if not take what pays your bills > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: dilemma (was RE: Email looks funny) > > > Your totally correct that I'm community oriented and I do support BD as a CF > based product. The problem is really political. If I accept New Atlanta's > offer > for the HoF site, then it'll cause bad feelings with some people (who, I > don't > know but it will) at Macromedia. This can and probably will affect things > such > as my standing as a Team Macromedia member and other things that I have with > MM > (such as interview access and alpha/beta privileges). > The choice is basically one of cash/BD on one hand and MM/core CF on the > other. > I know for certain that MM is not looking to hire me, fund me or support me > in > any direct way. It's just not what they do. I also know for certain that NA > IS > willing to fund me to an extent. I've offered both companies the option to > fund > different community projects like forums, blog software, etc. and NA was the > one > to 'bite'. > Judith and I had an argument last night about FA and it was almost closed > down > (time, money, effort, etc.) There's so much that I want to do, so much to > keep > doing and so much that's backlogged. A cash flow to support myself and the > community would help greatly and that's basically what NA has offered (I > have to > nail it down, but....) > It's all bound together. I'm sticking with the 'sure thing' at the moment, > but.... > > > > What follows is me sticking my nose where it probably doesn't belong. > Feel > > free to ignore this post. > > > > <cf_nosesticking> > > > > Having not been here, that long, I don't know what kind of treatment > you've > > gotten from Macromedia in the past. I don't know the politics of what's > > going on between you and MM now. I'm not sure I want to know (but if you > > feel like griping, I'll listen). > > > > From what I've seen over the last few months, you seem more > > community-oriented than necessarily company-oriented. Which, to me, begs > > the question of whether you are or should be a MM ColdFusion evangelist, a > > BD evangelist, or simply an evangelist of CFML generically. Maybe it's > time > > to broaden your horizons, so to speak. For example, you could try to cut > a > > deal with New Atlanta such that you can speak favorably about how BD > stands > > up to MM's server, but at the same time point out that if you need (for > > example) 2-way video communication, CFMX with Flashcom is the way to go. > > > > I guess part of me expects that you will find a way to point out the good > > and bad in each product you come across, because I see you as a fairly > > honest, even handed guy (when you're not using corpses to draft letters). > I > > guess that makes me want to look for a way you can have your community > cake > > and eat it, too. > > > > </cf_nosesticking> > > > > > > -- Ben Doom > > Programmer & General Lackey > > Moonbow Software, Inc > > > > : -----Original Message----- > > : From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > : Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:22 AM > > : To: CF-Community > > : Subject: Re: Email looks funny > > : > > : > > : > Mike, sorry to hear about whatever is bothering you so badly > > : that it has you > > : > this down. > > : Thanks. It'll be ok. > > : > > : > Does this have anything to do with Microsoft finally making the > > : bid on MM > > : > that was reported on CNN? If you know something the rest of us > > : don't, please > > : > share. > > : One part of me hopes this is a joke while another hopes its true. > > : If its true, > > : then I'll have no moral qualms about going to New Atlanta and > > : offering to the > > : their BD evangelist. They once asked me flat out what I wanted to > > : move HoF to > > : BD. I didn't want to do it as I'm still trying to rebuild my > > : relationship with > > : MM but if MS owns MM then no prob. > > : Ah, to do community stuff for cash. Tempting. Really tempting (even > now). > > : > > : > M > > : > > > : > -----Original Message----- > > : > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > : > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:38 AM > > : > To: CF-Community > > : > Subject: Re: Email looks funny > > : > > > : > > > : > I'm pissed, depressed and just not really a happy camper. A > > : prank for me at > > : > the moment would involve dead bodies arraigned to spell something out. > > : > Something really long. Plus I'm really not a big fan of April fools > day. > > : > > > : > > > : > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
