The problem is that I'm a coward. We've built up a lot of good will with MM and it's gotten us advanced info for FA and other things I can't mention (yes, there is support from MM). Will I still have the trust when I'm 'working for a competitor? Will I still get what I had to support the community. You don't know how useful it is to know about something like Central a week before it goes live so we can have an article about it on time for its release (or about, Judith has been 'out' for a bit).
> Go with BD. I would think that from a business standpoint, Macromedia > would recognize your value to the CF Community and attempt to keep you > using CFMX. Use the leverage that BD has provided you. It's business. > > Matthew Small > IT Supervisor > Showstopper National Dance Competitions > 3660 Old Kings Hwy > Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 > 843-357-1847 > http://www.showstopperonline.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:16 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: dilemma (was RE: Email looks funny) > > They're really not as bad as one may think. Problem is, I can't talk > about parts > of it. There is good there and while it doesn't pay the bills, it is > good will. > I'd hate to lose that. > > > dude worry about money and providing before you care about what MM > thinks > > about everything. > > They haven't done jack for you except given you a spiffy title of team > > Macromedia. Its just a title you get anything from it for free? > Software? > > support? if not take what pays your bills > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:55 AM > > Subject: Re: dilemma (was RE: Email looks funny) > > > > > > Your totally correct that I'm community oriented and I do support BD > as a CF > > based product. The problem is really political. If I accept New > Atlanta's > > offer > > for the HoF site, then it'll cause bad feelings with some people (who, > I > > don't > > know but it will) at Macromedia. This can and probably will affect > things > > such > > as my standing as a Team Macromedia member and other things that I > have with > > MM > > (such as interview access and alpha/beta privileges). > > The choice is basically one of cash/BD on one hand and MM/core CF on > the > > other. > > I know for certain that MM is not looking to hire me, fund me or > support me > > in > > any direct way. It's just not what they do. I also know for certain > that NA > > IS > > willing to fund me to an extent. I've offered both companies the > option to > > fund > > different community projects like forums, blog software, etc. and NA > was the > > one > > to 'bite'. > > Judith and I had an argument last night about FA and it was almost > closed > > down > > (time, money, effort, etc.) There's so much that I want to do, so much > to > > keep > > doing and so much that's backlogged. A cash flow to support myself and > the > > community would help greatly and that's basically what NA has offered > (I > > have to > > nail it down, but....) > > It's all bound together. I'm sticking with the 'sure thing' at the > moment, > > but.... > > > > > > > What follows is me sticking my nose where it probably doesn't > belong. > > Feel > > > free to ignore this post. > > > > > > <cf_nosesticking> > > > > > > Having not been here, that long, I don't know what kind of treatment > > you've > > > gotten from Macromedia in the past. I don't know the politics of > what's > > > going on between you and MM now. I'm not sure I want to know (but > if you > > > feel like griping, I'll listen). > > > > > > From what I've seen over the last few months, you seem more > > > community-oriented than necessarily company-oriented. Which, to me, > begs > > > the question of whether you are or should be a MM ColdFusion > evangelist, a > > > BD evangelist, or simply an evangelist of CFML generically. Maybe > it's > > time > > > to broaden your horizons, so to speak. For example, you could try > to cut > > a > > > deal with New Atlanta such that you can speak favorably about how BD > > stands > > > up to MM's server, but at the same time point out that if you need > (for > > > example) 2-way video communication, CFMX with Flashcom is the way to > go. > > > > > > I guess part of me expects that you will find a way to point out the > good > > > and bad in each product you come across, because I see you as a > fairly > > > honest, even handed guy (when you're not using corpses to draft > letters). > > I > > > guess that makes me want to look for a way you can have your > community > > cake > > > and eat it, too. > > > > > > </cf_nosesticking> > > > > > > > > > -- Ben Doom > > > Programmer & General Lackey > > > Moonbow Software, Inc > > > > > > : -----Original Message----- > > > : From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > : Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:22 AM > > > : To: CF-Community > > > : Subject: Re: Email looks funny > > > : > > > : > > > : > Mike, sorry to hear about whatever is bothering you so badly > > > : that it has you > > > : > this down. > > > : Thanks. It'll be ok. > > > : > > > : > Does this have anything to do with Microsoft finally making the > > > : bid on MM > > > : > that was reported on CNN? If you know something the rest of us > > > : don't, please > > > : > share. > > > : One part of me hopes this is a joke while another hopes its true. > > > : If its true, > > > : then I'll have no moral qualms about going to New Atlanta and > > > : offering to the > > > : their BD evangelist. They once asked me flat out what I wanted to > > > : move HoF to > > > : BD. I didn't want to do it as I'm still trying to rebuild my > > > : relationship with > > > : MM but if MS owns MM then no prob. > > > : Ah, to do community stuff for cash. Tempting. Really tempting > (even > > now). > > > : > > > : > M > > > : > > > > : > -----Original Message----- > > > : > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > : > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:38 AM > > > : > To: CF-Community > > > : > Subject: Re: Email looks funny > > > : > > > > : > > > > : > I'm pissed, depressed and just not really a happy camper. A > > > : prank for me at > > > : > the moment would involve dead bodies arraigned to spell > something out. > > > : > Something really long. Plus I'm really not a big fan of April > fools > > day. > > > : > > > > : > > > > : > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
