/no sarcasm But you have to give him some credit for some of the things he SENDS OUT of the State Department mail servers. Tim, I sense a level of honesty and rationality in your thought, which for a military person surrounded by (from what it appears from the outside) *kill kill rah rah rah* attitudes, must be difficult to maintain at times.
Now if you could only kick some of that rationality up the ranks a little bit (whitehouse), we'd be all good. Adam C. >I also find it a little weird to be sending critical opinions of US policy >to State Department mail servers. *cough* Tim *cough* > >=) > >-Kevin > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:47 AM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq >> >> >> About the masks - I can't speak to the motives of people I have >> never seen, >> but in this town it is established fact that the police have undercover >> operatives among the war protesters. Why they consider this >> necessary for a >> daily gathering of *maybe* twenty college students that does not even take >> place in their jusrisdiction remains unexplained and, even scarier, nobody >> is asking the question. (The matter came to light when a DA was accused of >> pointing them out to protesters, and was suspended.) >> >> Anyway, I don't want to debate the need or lack of it for either the masks >> or the undercover officers, but it does occur to me that people may be >> worried about being declared enemy operatives or whatever under >> the Patriot >> Act... it's certainly not outside the realm of *my* paranoid imaginings. >> Although the people I have seen down there seem pretty New Mexican to me. >> >> John Stanley writes: >> >> > The only people I have a problem with are the extremist anti >> war supporters >> > with their own masked agendas. Some of these people have their >> faces masked >> > during the protests, and that bothers me. >> > >> > Doug, the people of the United States have the RIGHT to protest >> against any >> > government policy. Personally, I dont like the protestors, and >> I am glad we >> > are in Iraq; but that does not mean what they are doing is illegal. >> > >> > Secondly, I believe the constitution gives the right to the >> people to decide >> > what kind of government they want. So your whole overthrow >> argument does not >> > make sense. If the people decide the government, and the majority of the >> > people decide against the current one, then it is legal to >> change it. Even >> > though that is not the case in this situation. >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:48 AM >> > To: CF-Community >> > Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq >> > >> > >> > Offended? So be it. I stand by my position that the Anti-war >> Protestors are >> > all >> > cowards. To call them brave is absolutely ludicrous. The "passive >> > resistance" >> > types are also cowards. If you are so against our country, >> perhaps you also >> > should be "exported" The so-called protests have gone far beyond our >> > Constitutionally protected "Free Speech" and now are in the vicinity of >> > Advocating the violent overthrow of our government, which is >> better defined >> > as >> > sedition. >> > The pledge of allegiance to the flag of the Untied Stated of America, >> > introduced >> > to all Americans from the first grade of school and onwards is being >> > violated by >> > these cowards, further making them disloyal, liars and, again, >> cowards and >> > seditionists. >> > >> > | You comments honestly offend me as an American. "export all these >> > | socialist protesters"? So we should slap the ideals of this >> country in >> > | the face by renouncing the fundamental freedom to disagree with our >> > | government's actions? In fact punishing those that do? >> > | >> > | Who else would be "exported" (nice, sanitized word there by the way)? >> > | What other group's expressions of free speech annoy you? >> > | >> > | Being anti-war has never been synonymous with "coward". I see a great >> > | bravery in those willing to express their disatisfaction >> against public >> > | opinion. Regardless of whether I agree with them or not I feel proud >> > | when I see protesters. Proud that this country protects that >> right and >> > | pround that my fellow Americans are still strong enough to >> exercise it. >> > | >> > | Jim Davis >> > | >> > | >> > | >> > >> > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
