well said

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Do you want my honest opinion on the matter, not that I can be stopped :)
> 
> I have very strong feelings about what I do.  I am really only able to do
> this job because we do not have a domestic mission, we are purely used to
> help private industry secure itself overseas. I couldn't work for the FBI or
> Homeland Security.
> 
> Also, if something I should say here would get me fired, or arrested, well I
> would want that to happen.  I mean I don't pursue it, and it's not something
> I think will or should happen.  I guess that since I feel I am a patriot,
> and since as a libertarian I have sworn that I will not support political
> change though violence, that I don't see how I could be looked upon as an
> enemy of the satae, and that f I were to be looked at that way that I
> wouldn't want to be working here anyway.
> 
> Timothy Heald 
> Overseas Security Advisory Council 
> U.S. Department of State 
> 
> "that the free Constitution, which is the work of your hands, may be
> sacredly maintained" - George Washington, Farewell Address 1796
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:19 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq
> 
> 
> crossed your mind too huh :) I would like to believe that the people who
> have been arrested under the patriot act so far were arrested for good
> cause, and am proceeding on that assumption, cynical tho I am at times...I
> really do hope that we have not yet reached a point where saying that a
> presidents actions are not in our best interests is *really* seen as
> sedition.
> 
> Kevin Graeme writes:
> 
> > I also find it a little weird to be sending critical opinions of US policy
> > to State Department mail servers. *cough* Tim *cough*
> > 
> > =)
> > 
> > -Kevin
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:47 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq
> > >
> > >
> > > About the masks - I can't speak to the motives of people I have
> > > never seen,
> > > but in this town it is established fact that the police have undercover
> > > operatives among the war protesters. Why they consider this
> > > necessary for a
> > > daily gathering of *maybe* twenty college students that does not even
> take
> > > place in their jusrisdiction remains unexplained and, even scarier,
> nobody
> > > is asking the question. (The matter came to light when a DA was accused
> of
> > > pointing them out to protesters, and was suspended.)
> > >
> > > Anyway, I don't want to debate the need or lack of it for either the
> masks
> > > or the undercover officers, but it does occur to me that people may be
> > > worried about being declared enemy operatives or whatever under
> > > the Patriot
> > > Act... it's certainly not outside the realm of *my* paranoid imaginings.
> > > Although the people I have seen down there seem pretty New Mexican to
> me.
> > >
> > > John Stanley writes:
> > >
> > > > The only people I have a problem with are the extremist anti
> > > war supporters
> > > > with their own masked agendas. Some of these people have their
> > > faces masked
> > > > during the protests, and that bothers me.
> > > >
> > > > Doug, the people of the United States have the RIGHT to protest
> > > against any
> > > > government policy. Personally, I dont like the protestors, and
> > > I am glad we
> > > > are in Iraq; but that does not mean what they are doing is illegal.
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, I believe the constitution gives the right to the
> > > people to decide
> > > > what kind of government they want. So your whole overthrow
> > > argument does not
> > > > make sense. If the people decide the government, and the majority of
> the
> > > > people decide against the current one, then it is legal to
> > > change it. Even
> > > > though that is not the case in this situation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:48 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Offended? So be it.  I stand by my position that the Anti-war
> > > Protestors are
> > > > all
> > > > cowards.  To call them brave is absolutely ludicrous. The "passive
> > > > resistance"
> > > > types are also cowards. If you are so against our country,
> > > perhaps you also
> > > > should be "exported" The so-called protests have gone far beyond our
> > > > Constitutionally protected "Free Speech" and now are in the vicinity
> of
> > > > Advocating the violent overthrow of our government, which is
> > > better defined
> > > > as
> > > > sedition.
> > > > The pledge of allegiance to the flag of the Untied Stated of America,
> > > > introduced
> > > > to all Americans from the first grade of school and onwards is being
> > > > violated by
> > > > these cowards, further making them disloyal, liars and, again,
> > > cowards and
> > > > seditionists.
> > > >
> > > > | You comments honestly offend me as an American.  "export all these
> > > > | socialist protesters"?  So we should slap the ideals of this
> > > country in
> > > > | the face by renouncing the fundamental freedom to disagree with our
> > > > | government's actions?  In fact punishing those that do?
> > > > |
> > > > | Who else would be "exported" (nice, sanitized word there by the
> way)?
> > > > | What other group's expressions of free speech annoy you?
> > > > |
> > > > | Being anti-war has never been synonymous with "coward".  I see a
> great
> > > > | bravery in those willing to express their disatisfaction
> > > against public
> > > > | opinion.  Regardless of whether I agree with them or not I feel
> proud
> > > > | when I see protesters.  Proud that this country protects that
> > > right and
> > > > | pround that my fellow Americans are still strong enough to
> > > exercise it.
> > > > |
> > > > | Jim Davis
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
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