Do you want my honest opinion on the matter, not that I can be stopped :)

I have very strong feelings about what I do.  I am really only able to do
this job because we do not have a domestic mission, we are purely used to
help private industry secure itself overseas. I couldn't work for the FBI or
Homeland Security.

Also, if something I should say here would get me fired, or arrested, well I
would want that to happen.  I mean I don't pursue it, and it's not something
I think will or should happen.  I guess that since I feel I am a patriot,
and since as a libertarian I have sworn that I will not support political
change though violence, that I don't see how I could be looked upon as an
enemy of the satae, and that f I were to be looked at that way that I
wouldn't want to be working here anyway.

Timothy Heald 
Overseas Security Advisory Council 
U.S. Department of State 

"that the free Constitution, which is the work of your hands, may be
sacredly maintained" - George Washington, Farewell Address 1796



-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:19 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq


crossed your mind too huh :) I would like to believe that the people who
have been arrested under the patriot act so far were arrested for good
cause, and am proceeding on that assumption, cynical tho I am at times...I
really do hope that we have not yet reached a point where saying that a
presidents actions are not in our best interests is *really* seen as
sedition.

Kevin Graeme writes:

> I also find it a little weird to be sending critical opinions of US policy
> to State Department mail servers. *cough* Tim *cough*
> 
> =)
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:47 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq
> >
> >
> > About the masks - I can't speak to the motives of people I have
> > never seen,
> > but in this town it is established fact that the police have undercover
> > operatives among the war protesters. Why they consider this
> > necessary for a
> > daily gathering of *maybe* twenty college students that does not even
take
> > place in their jusrisdiction remains unexplained and, even scarier,
nobody
> > is asking the question. (The matter came to light when a DA was accused
of
> > pointing them out to protesters, and was suspended.)
> >
> > Anyway, I don't want to debate the need or lack of it for either the
masks
> > or the undercover officers, but it does occur to me that people may be
> > worried about being declared enemy operatives or whatever under
> > the Patriot
> > Act... it's certainly not outside the realm of *my* paranoid imaginings.
> > Although the people I have seen down there seem pretty New Mexican to
me.
> >
> > John Stanley writes:
> >
> > > The only people I have a problem with are the extremist anti
> > war supporters
> > > with their own masked agendas. Some of these people have their
> > faces masked
> > > during the protests, and that bothers me.
> > >
> > > Doug, the people of the United States have the RIGHT to protest
> > against any
> > > government policy. Personally, I dont like the protestors, and
> > I am glad we
> > > are in Iraq; but that does not mean what they are doing is illegal.
> > >
> > > Secondly, I believe the constitution gives the right to the
> > people to decide
> > > what kind of government they want. So your whole overthrow
> > argument does not
> > > make sense. If the people decide the government, and the majority of
the
> > > people decide against the current one, then it is legal to
> > change it. Even
> > > though that is not the case in this situation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:48 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq
> > >
> > >
> > > Offended? So be it.  I stand by my position that the Anti-war
> > Protestors are
> > > all
> > > cowards.  To call them brave is absolutely ludicrous. The "passive
> > > resistance"
> > > types are also cowards. If you are so against our country,
> > perhaps you also
> > > should be "exported" The so-called protests have gone far beyond our
> > > Constitutionally protected "Free Speech" and now are in the vicinity
of
> > > Advocating the violent overthrow of our government, which is
> > better defined
> > > as
> > > sedition.
> > > The pledge of allegiance to the flag of the Untied Stated of America,
> > > introduced
> > > to all Americans from the first grade of school and onwards is being
> > > violated by
> > > these cowards, further making them disloyal, liars and, again,
> > cowards and
> > > seditionists.
> > >
> > > | You comments honestly offend me as an American.  "export all these
> > > | socialist protesters"?  So we should slap the ideals of this
> > country in
> > > | the face by renouncing the fundamental freedom to disagree with our
> > > | government's actions?  In fact punishing those that do?
> > > |
> > > | Who else would be "exported" (nice, sanitized word there by the
way)?
> > > | What other group's expressions of free speech annoy you?
> > > |
> > > | Being anti-war has never been synonymous with "coward".  I see a
great
> > > | bravery in those willing to express their disatisfaction
> > against public
> > > | opinion.  Regardless of whether I agree with them or not I feel
proud
> > > | when I see protesters.  Proud that this country protects that
> > right and
> > > | pround that my fellow Americans are still strong enough to
> > exercise it.
> > > |
> > > | Jim Davis
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 

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