Hehehe,
Well the kill kill kill cold blue steel side only comes out when
it's needed :) Truth be told most of the soldiers I know don't want to go
to war. I mean there's always the question in your head, am I good enough,
would I serve with honor? So I guess a part of you would welcome action
sometimes, but usually you want to train, and BS and find ways to sham (army
for goof off). Another common misconception is the level on intelligence
found among Army and Marine Infantry. Without a doubt I have found the
members of my MOS to be the most intelligent and rational members of the
military. I have friends that have masters and doctorates, computer
scientists, guys that quit west point to be hard core :)
The infantry is not easy. You have to be knowledgeable on so many
areas, heavy on the math skills for things like land navigation and calling
and plotting artillery fire. You have to be in excellent physical shape. A
training ruck could be over 60 pounds, a go to war ruck as much as 100, and
that's without your other gear on your load bearing equipment, or your
weapon and Kevlar and body armor. The physical side was the hardest thing
for me. Those here that know me know I am not a big guy.
If someone really wants to get a good look inside the head, and the
life of an infantryman I suggest you get Anthony Swofford's book "Jarhead".
I read it last night, pretty much in one sitting. It was incredible. Very
emotional and disturbing and endearing all at once, it really portrayed the
life well.
Timothy Heald
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
"that the free Constitution, which is the work of your hands, may be
sacredly maintained" - George Washington, Farewell Address 1796
-----Original Message-----
From: cantrl. a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:05 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Liberate Iraq
/no sarcasm
But you have to give him some credit for some of the things he SENDS OUT of
the State Department mail servers. Tim, I sense a level of honesty and
rationality in your thought, which for a military person surrounded by (from
what it appears from the outside) *kill kill rah rah rah* attitudes, must be
difficult to maintain at times.
Now if you could only kick some of that rationality up the ranks a little
bit (whitehouse), we'd be all good.
Adam C.
>I also find it a little weird to be sending critical opinions of US policy
>to State Department mail servers. *cough* Tim *cough*
>
>=)
>
>-Kevin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:47 AM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq
>>
>>
>> About the masks - I can't speak to the motives of people I have
>> never seen,
>> but in this town it is established fact that the police have undercover
>> operatives among the war protesters. Why they consider this
>> necessary for a
>> daily gathering of *maybe* twenty college students that does not even
take
>> place in their jusrisdiction remains unexplained and, even scarier,
nobody
>> is asking the question. (The matter came to light when a DA was accused
of
>> pointing them out to protesters, and was suspended.)
>>
>> Anyway, I don't want to debate the need or lack of it for either the
masks
>> or the undercover officers, but it does occur to me that people may be
>> worried about being declared enemy operatives or whatever under
>> the Patriot
>> Act... it's certainly not outside the realm of *my* paranoid imaginings.
>> Although the people I have seen down there seem pretty New Mexican to me.
>>
>> John Stanley writes:
>>
>> > The only people I have a problem with are the extremist anti
>> war supporters
>> > with their own masked agendas. Some of these people have their
>> faces masked
>> > during the protests, and that bothers me.
>> >
>> > Doug, the people of the United States have the RIGHT to protest
>> against any
>> > government policy. Personally, I dont like the protestors, and
>> I am glad we
>> > are in Iraq; but that does not mean what they are doing is illegal.
>> >
>> > Secondly, I believe the constitution gives the right to the
>> people to decide
>> > what kind of government they want. So your whole overthrow
>> argument does not
>> > make sense. If the people decide the government, and the majority of
the
>> > people decide against the current one, then it is legal to
>> change it. Even
>> > though that is not the case in this situation.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:48 AM
>> > To: CF-Community
>> > Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq
>> >
>> >
>> > Offended? So be it. I stand by my position that the Anti-war
>> Protestors are
>> > all
>> > cowards. To call them brave is absolutely ludicrous. The "passive
>> > resistance"
>> > types are also cowards. If you are so against our country,
>> perhaps you also
>> > should be "exported" The so-called protests have gone far beyond our
>> > Constitutionally protected "Free Speech" and now are in the vicinity of
>> > Advocating the violent overthrow of our government, which is
>> better defined
>> > as
>> > sedition.
>> > The pledge of allegiance to the flag of the Untied Stated of America,
>> > introduced
>> > to all Americans from the first grade of school and onwards is being
>> > violated by
>> > these cowards, further making them disloyal, liars and, again,
>> cowards and
>> > seditionists.
>> >
>> > | You comments honestly offend me as an American. "export all these
>> > | socialist protesters"? So we should slap the ideals of this
>> country in
>> > | the face by renouncing the fundamental freedom to disagree with our
>> > | government's actions? In fact punishing those that do?
>> > |
>> > | Who else would be "exported" (nice, sanitized word there by the way)?
>> > | What other group's expressions of free speech annoy you?
>> > |
>> > | Being anti-war has never been synonymous with "coward". I see a
great
>> > | bravery in those willing to express their disatisfaction
>> against public
>> > | opinion. Regardless of whether I agree with them or not I feel proud
>> > | when I see protesters. Proud that this country protects that
>> right and
>> > | pround that my fellow Americans are still strong enough to
>> exercise it.
>> > |
>> > | Jim Davis
>> > |
>> > |
>> > |
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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