Bushites are good at deriding the opposition. Got them the white house as I 
recall...

On Wed, 28 May 2003 14:21:20 -0500, Kevin Graeme 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sorry if that response of mine seemed a bit harsh. I just recall strongly
> arguing about the red-herring argument about the WMD well before the war
> started, but I was repeatedly derided and given the brush-off. Now, I'm 
> just
> generally sitting back and eating my popcorn with a bit of wistful 
> sadness
> for the gullibility of the US people.
>
> Bottom line: GWB makes Nixon look honest.
>
> -Kevin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:33 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: RE: Operation Iraqi Eradication
>>
>>
>> Perhaps.  Having a selective memory if part of being human.  And the one
>> thing we all should admit is that we were and continue to be all  poorly
>> informed.  We will probably not know what really happened and was
>> known for
>> some time.
>>
>> Peace.
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:23 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: RE: Operation Iraqi Eradication
>>
>>
>> > Also, I don't remember any of the other countries challenging
>> > that Iraq had
>> > Wad's.  I just remember them asking for more time to negotiate them 
>> away
>> > from Sadaam.
>>
>> Then you're either choosing to not remember, or you were sorely 
>> uninformed
>> about the debates leading up to the war. I recall several cases where
>> countries early on tried to challenge the existence of WMD. I'm
>> pretty sure
>> I even gave links here before the war started.
>>
>> What happened though is that the Bush administration controlled the 
>> entire
>> playing field. Just like when Kevin Schmidt here stated that
>> anyone who said
>> it was about oil had no credibility, Bush controlled the
>> situation such that
>> any country that tried to say it wasn't about the WMD had no
>> credibility. So
>> in order for _any_ discussion to take place, the countries had to 
>> pretend
>> that they agreed that there were WMD. Heck, even Powell early on was
>> publicly unsure of their existence and didn't even support going to war
>> because he was concerned it would destabilize the region. Hm...
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>>
> 
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