Do not be afraid to discuss this subject, even though there are several on this
list who believe in Bush absolutely and without reservation.  The entire planet
is asking for proof of the presentation made in speech after speech and Powell's
presentation before the UN.   Without that evidence, or at least evidence that
they existed and were destroyed (which was Saddam's obligation under the UN
resolution(s ))  The credibility of the US in international affairs is
compromised.  It will no doubt have an effect on the upcoming elections as well,
as well as Blair's future in British politics.
The humanitarian reasons are good and valid, the financial support of suicide
bombers in Palestine is an established fact.  The Al Quida support is still
somewhat suspect.  There are indeed other regimes which should be toppled as
well, but is it the duty of the US to do that, unless there is a clear and
present domestic danger?
I feel it is a topic worthy of discussion, while I doubt any minds will be
changed.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Ousterhout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: Those pesky WMD.


| Gel-
|
| Not sure if anyone is arguing this point.  In fact, my biggest issue with
| Bush has his introduction of 2 other reasons later on (terrorist threat and
| treatment of people) which in my view made it sound as if he was just
| itching for a reason to invade(boy, is this through steak to the sharks on
| this list!).  In retrospect, perhaps the introduction of these other reasons
| started when he become aware of the potential that  WMD "intelligence" was
| not as solid as he initially thought.
|
| Again, only time will tell.
|
| Andy
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:26 AM
| To: CF-Community
| Subject: Those pesky WMD.
|
|
| http://slate.msn.com/id/2083760/
|
| "a powerful rejoinder comes from Tony Blair, the British prime minister.
| "I have absolutely no doubt at all about the existence of weapons of
| mass destruction," Blair told reporters on Thursday. Asked if it matters
| whether they exist, Blair replied, ***"It matters immensely because the
| basis on which the war was sold to the British House of Commons, to the
| British people, was that Saddam represented a serious threat."***
|
| It was, of course, sold on that basis to the Congress and to the
| American people, too.
| ---------
|
| I could not have put why the existence of WMD matter, better than Tony
| Blair did in this speech.
|
| -Gel
|
|
| 
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