like that yes. did it have guards on the island? because i wouldnt waste the
money on that. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:04 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
Powell: "Thi s is BS"


So we're really talking Australia here?

Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:55 AM
> To:   CF-Community
> Subject:      RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> Powell:  "Thi s is BS"
> 
> This is for lifers. No parole. No escape. No appeals. I wonder if it would
> be like what it was in the movie, where they would have a camp of the
> "good"
> crimminals, who are constantly defending themselves from the raging hordes
> of "bad" crimminals. Or would it just be chaos. 
> 
> Also women lifers would go to the same place.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> 
> 
> Is this only for lifers, or everyone?  I sure would not want somebody
> who was "rehabilitated" on Death Island to back among us in the
> civilized world.  They would have the ability to make spears from fish
> bones and then chuck them at us to steal our money to buy a thatched
> hut.
> 
> Matthew Small
> IT Director
> Showstopper American Dance Championships
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 843-357-1847
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:43 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> 
> there is no death row. they are on an island, in the middle of nowhere,
> with
> only their limited resources....the only cost would be the ammo costs
> for
> blowing up escapees...and some pr money to make nice nice with the
> citizens.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:37 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> 
> 
> yes but it would still cost the same.  Its been shown that a prisoner
> who
> dies on death row has cost the state as much as one who lived his life
> in
> prison.  Having the military do it would likely cost taxpayers even
> more.
> 
> DRE
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:27 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> 
> 
> addendum. you dont have to pay for prison guards because the military
> would
> take over guarding the island. it would be part of normal military duty
> rotation, like the navy going to the med every six months...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:25 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> 
> 
> except everyone pays to keep these ass clowns in clothes, tv's, lawyers,
> food, weights, college, ad nauseum.
> 
> Island in the middle of nowhere with a military garrison surrounding it
> a
> mile or so out to sea. Anyone who tries to leave gets blown up, and it
> is
> survival of the fittest for everyone on the island. No appeals.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:24 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> 
> 
> theres definetly an emotion that makes you want to hurt them.  But its
> just
> an emotion.  It doesnt help anybody.  The victim doesnt come back.  The
> real
> key is that they cant do it again and life imprisonment w/out parole
> does
> just that.
> 
> DRE
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:46 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> 
> 
> I know, it just seems like prison is too easy to me. Maybe if they
> dumped
> them all on an island with limited resources and they had to fight to
> survive (Ray Liotta -- No Escape), then I'd be fine without capital
> punishment...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:47 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin Powell:
> "Thi s is BS"
> 
> 
> I dont get that whole capital punishment thing anymore.  
> 
> -First of all, they get the wrong people far more often than reasonable
> and
> they convict them with a capital punishment.  This has been shown
> repeatedly.  I think killing the wrong guy is far worst than imprisoning
> him
> for life.
> -It costs the state about the same amount of money as it would for life.
> -It doesnt really send a message.  I mean look!  They are still doing
> it!!
> -The whole point is to get them off the streets!! Life terms w.out
> parole do
> that just fine!
> 
> DRE
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:30 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> 
> 
> The Stanley Doctrine
> 
> -- Free Press is awesome
> -- Willingness to use capital punishment to deal with crimminals
> -- Enthusiastic embrace of military veterans
> -- As many parties as possible (both political and celebrational)
> -- Communal living is fine, but not required.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:15 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> 
> 
> Regardless, a doctrine by any other name is just the same.
> 
> Socrates was a Stalinist long before Stalin. A quick read of the
> Republic
> reveals:
> 
> - Contempt for a free press
> - Willingness to use capital punishment to deal with non-comformists
> - Enthusiastic embrace of military types
> - Strict consolidation of power within a ruling party
> - Communal living
> 
> M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:04 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> 
> 
> not a very good double commie if he doesn't know who trotsky is...
> 
> will
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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