See, it worked on that movie, all except the president crashing into
there...

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:54 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
Powell: "Thi s is BS"


John,

you need to see John Carpenter's Escape from New York.

larry

At 10:43 AM 6/4/2003 -0400, John Stanley wrote:
>there is no death row. they are on an island, in the middle of nowhere,
with
>only their limited resources....the only cost would be the ammo costs for
>blowing up escapees...and some pr money to make nice nice with the
citizens.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:37 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
>Powell: "Thi s is BS"
>
>
>yes but it would still cost the same.  Its been shown that a prisoner who
>dies on death row has cost the state as much as one who lived his life in
>prison.  Having the military do it would likely cost taxpayers even more.
>
>DRE
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:27 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
>Powell: "Thi s is BS"
>
>
>addendum. you dont have to pay for prison guards because the military would
>take over guarding the island. it would be part of normal military duty
>rotation, like the navy going to the med every six months...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Stanley
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:25 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
>Powell: "Thi s is BS"
>
>
>except everyone pays to keep these ass clowns in clothes, tv's, lawyers,
>food, weights, college, ad nauseum.
>
>Island in the middle of nowhere with a military garrison surrounding it a
>mile or so out to sea. Anyone who tries to leave gets blown up, and it is
>survival of the fittest for everyone on the island. No appeals.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:24 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
>Powell: "Thi s is BS"
>
>
>theres definetly an emotion that makes you want to hurt them.  But its just
>an emotion.  It doesnt help anybody.  The victim doesnt come back.  The
real
>key is that they cant do it again and life imprisonment w/out parole does
>just that.
>
>DRE
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:46 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
>Powell: "Thi s is BS"
>
>
>I know, it just seems like prison is too easy to me. Maybe if they dumped
>them all on an island with limited resources and they had to fight to
>survive (Ray Liotta -- No Escape), then I'd be fine without capital
>punishment...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:47 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin Powell:
>"Thi s is BS"
>
>
>I dont get that whole capital punishment thing anymore.
>
>-First of all, they get the wrong people far more often than reasonable and
>they convict them with a capital punishment.  This has been shown
>repeatedly.  I think killing the wrong guy is far worst than imprisoning
him
>for life.
>-It costs the state about the same amount of money as it would for life.
>-It doesnt really send a message.  I mean look!  They are still doing it!!
>-The whole point is to get them off the streets!! Life terms w.out parole
do
>that just fine!
>
>DRE
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:30 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
>
>
>The Stanley Doctrine
>
>-- Free Press is awesome
>-- Willingness to use capital punishment to deal with crimminals
>-- Enthusiastic embrace of military veterans
>-- As many parties as possible (both political and celebrational)
>-- Communal living is fine, but not required.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:15 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
>
>
>Regardless, a doctrine by any other name is just the same.
>
>Socrates was a Stalinist long before Stalin. A quick read of the Republic
>reveals:
>
>- Contempt for a free press
>- Willingness to use capital punishment to deal with non-comformists
>- Enthusiastic embrace of military types
>- Strict consolidation of power within a ruling party
>- Communal living
>
>M
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:04 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
>
>
>not a very good double commie if he doesn't know who trotsky is...
>
>will
>
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