Dude, what an Idea......Crimminal Survivor....the prize is life.....but
still on the island of course....

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:44 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
Powell: "Thi s is BS"


dooh, I cant read.  We could film everything going on on the island and call
it survivor. I bet people would watch it and we could actually make money.

DRE

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:43 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
Powell: "Thi s is BS"


there is no death row. they are on an island, in the middle of nowhere, with
only their limited resources....the only cost would be the ammo costs for
blowing up escapees...and some pr money to make nice nice with the citizens.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:37 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
Powell: "Thi s is BS"


yes but it would still cost the same.  Its been shown that a prisoner who
dies on death row has cost the state as much as one who lived his life in
prison.  Having the military do it would likely cost taxpayers even more.

DRE

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:27 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
Powell: "Thi s is BS"


addendum. you dont have to pay for prison guards because the military would
take over guarding the island. it would be part of normal military duty
rotation, like the navy going to the med every six months...

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stanley 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:25 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
Powell: "Thi s is BS"


except everyone pays to keep these ass clowns in clothes, tv's, lawyers,
food, weights, college, ad nauseum.

Island in the middle of nowhere with a military garrison surrounding it a
mile or so out to sea. Anyone who tries to leave gets blown up, and it is
survival of the fittest for everyone on the island. No appeals.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:24 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
Powell: "Thi s is BS"


theres definetly an emotion that makes you want to hurt them.  But its just
an emotion.  It doesnt help anybody.  The victim doesnt come back.  The real
key is that they cant do it again and life imprisonment w/out parole does
just that.

DRE

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:46 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
Powell: "Thi s is BS"


I know, it just seems like prison is too easy to me. Maybe if they dumped
them all on an island with limited resources and they had to fight to
survive (Ray Liotta -- No Escape), then I'd be fine without capital
punishment...

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:47 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin Powell:
"Thi s is BS"


I dont get that whole capital punishment thing anymore.  

-First of all, they get the wrong people far more often than reasonable and
they convict them with a capital punishment.  This has been shown
repeatedly.  I think killing the wrong guy is far worst than imprisoning him
for life.
-It costs the state about the same amount of money as it would for life.
-It doesnt really send a message.  I mean look!  They are still doing it!!
-The whole point is to get them off the streets!! Life terms w.out parole do
that just fine!

DRE

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:30 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS"


The Stanley Doctrine

-- Free Press is awesome
-- Willingness to use capital punishment to deal with crimminals
-- Enthusiastic embrace of military veterans
-- As many parties as possible (both political and celebrational)
-- Communal living is fine, but not required.

-----Original Message-----
From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:15 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS"


Regardless, a doctrine by any other name is just the same.

Socrates was a Stalinist long before Stalin. A quick read of the Republic
reveals:

- Contempt for a free press
- Willingness to use capital punishment to deal with non-comformists
- Enthusiastic embrace of military types
- Strict consolidation of power within a ruling party
- Communal living

M

-----Original Message-----
From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:04 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS"


not a very good double commie if he doesn't know who trotsky is...

will











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