Given that Carpenter described the president in that film as the 
ideological love child between Ronnie Raygun and Magaret Thatcher, that 
pretty much describes Bush.

larry

At 01:03 PM 6/4/2003 -0400, John Stanley wrote:
>See, it worked on that movie, all except the president crashing into
>there...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:54 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
>Powell: "Thi s is BS"
>
>
>John,
>
>you need to see John Carpenter's Escape from New York.
>
>larry
>
>At 10:43 AM 6/4/2003 -0400, John Stanley wrote:
> >there is no death row. they are on an island, in the middle of nowhere,
>with
> >only their limited resources....the only cost would be the ammo costs for
> >blowing up escapees...and some pr money to make nice nice with the
>citizens.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:37 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> >Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> >
> >
> >yes but it would still cost the same.  Its been shown that a prisoner who
> >dies on death row has cost the state as much as one who lived his life in
> >prison.  Having the military do it would likely cost taxpayers even more.
> >
> >DRE
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:27 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> >Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> >
> >
> >addendum. you dont have to pay for prison guards because the military would
> >take over guarding the island. it would be part of normal military duty
> >rotation, like the navy going to the med every six months...
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: John Stanley
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:25 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> >Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> >
> >
> >except everyone pays to keep these ass clowns in clothes, tv's, lawyers,
> >food, weights, college, ad nauseum.
> >
> >Island in the middle of nowhere with a military garrison surrounding it a
> >mile or so out to sea. Anyone who tries to leave gets blown up, and it is
> >survival of the fittest for everyone on the island. No appeals.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:24 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> >Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> >
> >
> >theres definetly an emotion that makes you want to hurt them.  But its just
> >an emotion.  It doesnt help anybody.  The victim doesnt come back.  The
>real
> >key is that they cant do it again and life imprisonment w/out parole does
> >just that.
> >
> >DRE
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:46 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin
> >Powell: "Thi s is BS"
> >
> >
> >I know, it just seems like prison is too easy to me. Maybe if they dumped
> >them all on an island with limited resources and they had to fight to
> >survive (Ray Liotta -- No Escape), then I'd be fine without capital
> >punishment...
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:47 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: capital punishment, stanley doctrine, WAS: RE: Colin Powell:
> >"Thi s is BS"
> >
> >
> >I dont get that whole capital punishment thing anymore.
> >
> >-First of all, they get the wrong people far more often than reasonable and
> >they convict them with a capital punishment.  This has been shown
> >repeatedly.  I think killing the wrong guy is far worst than imprisoning
>him
> >for life.
> >-It costs the state about the same amount of money as it would for life.
> >-It doesnt really send a message.  I mean look!  They are still doing it!!
> >-The whole point is to get them off the streets!! Life terms w.out parole
>do
> >that just fine!
> >
> >DRE
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:30 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> >
> >
> >The Stanley Doctrine
> >
> >-- Free Press is awesome
> >-- Willingness to use capital punishment to deal with crimminals
> >-- Enthusiastic embrace of military veterans
> >-- As many parties as possible (both political and celebrational)
> >-- Communal living is fine, but not required.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:15 PM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> >
> >
> >Regardless, a doctrine by any other name is just the same.
> >
> >Socrates was a Stalinist long before Stalin. A quick read of the Republic
> >reveals:
> >
> >- Contempt for a free press
> >- Willingness to use capital punishment to deal with non-comformists
> >- Enthusiastic embrace of military types
> >- Strict consolidation of power within a ruling party
> >- Communal living
> >
> >M
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:04 PM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> >
> >
> >not a very good double commie if he doesn't know who trotsky is...
> >
> >will
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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