funny you should mention the term condescending jerk. I never felt bad, Bill. Have a nice day :)
Dana On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:27:21 -0400, William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *HUGS* hope you feel better today dana :) > > > > > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:22 AM > Subject: Re: A good american > > >> And it's nice to know Canadians can be condescending jerks sometimes too > ;) >> >> >> "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was >> good >> with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people >> off!" >> Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:45 AM >> Subject: Re: A good american >> >> >> > Bill. Let me see if I can explain this so you can understand. The > military >> > service makes you eligible. You still have to apply, and certify that > you >> > are not a member of the Nazi party, and a few other things. You have >> to >> > disclose any criminal history and you have to affirm that you have >> never >> > advocated the overthrow of the US government. And so on for about >> eight >> > pages. You then take the application down to the INS office with all >> the >> > requisite photographs and --- pay attention now -- the application fee > of >> > $250. The fee is not waived for military or any other applicants that >> I >> > have ever heard. >> > >> > I personally have been eligible for several years, based on time I >> have >> > already lived here. I did not file the paperwork sooner because I did > not >> > see the importance of voting. This last election has shown me the >> error > of >> > my ways. I will be filing the application. If I enlisted it would have >> zero >> > effect on my eligibility. I am eligible already. >> > >> > Let me know if I need to use even smaller words. >> > >> > Dana >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:11:29 -0400, William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Oh i know you can get citizenship other ways but see thats a free >> way >> for >> > > you to do it LOL. >> > > >> > > >> > > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was >> good >> > > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people >> off!" >> > > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:06 PM >> > > Subject: Re: A good american >> > > >> > > >> > >> I don't need to perform military service to get citizenhip. I need >> to >> > >> get >> > >> over to the INS office with $250 dollars. >> > >> >> > >> The plan isnt just proposed. Two of the GIs killed in Iraq had > enlisted >> > > for >> > >> this reason. I think its not a bad idea. Makes it easier for people > to >> > >> get >> > >> citizenship. >> > >> >> > >> Dana >> > >> >> > >> William Wheatley writes: >> > >> >> > >> > Then you might get citizenship under a law that is being proposed > to >> > > give >> > >> > legal aliens who do military service citizenship. >> > >> > >> > >> > I think its a great idea >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I > was >> > > good >> > >> > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts >> people >> > > off!" >> > >> > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Tierney" >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:43 PM >> > >> > Subject: Re: A good american >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > well, if you object to killing people why enlist, is my >> question. > I >> > > for >> > >> > > example took great care to never enlist for exactly this >> reason. > If >> > > the US >> > >> > > was invaded then I would be willing to do medic, I guess. >> Might >> > >> still >> > >> > lead >> > >> > > to having to kill someone but it would not be my actual >> function. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Dana >> > >> > > >> > >> > > John Stanley writes: >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > That's why I specifically stated about the US being invaded. >> I >> > >> think >> > >> > that if >> > >> > > > you enlist and there is a war in another country, and you > object >> > >> to >> > >> > killing >> > >> > > > another person for whatever reason, you should get another >> job, >> > >> but >> > >> > still on >> > >> > > > the front line, like a medic or something. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Basically it boils down to this: I as a citizen am willing to > do >> > >> > whatever my >> > >> > > > country asks of me. I want to punish those who would not do >> the >> > > same. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > >> > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:29 PM >> > >> > > > To: CF-Community >> > >> > > > Subject: Re: A good american >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > thats if the US is invaded though. (I am not going to go into >> > >> > conscientous >> > >> > > > (sp?) objectors; I think some are genuine but if the country >> is >> > > being >> > >> > > > invaded they should serve *somehow*) >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > My problem is when people extrapolate this to all other >> > >> situations. >> > > We >> > >> > > > invade Iraq and gee if you don't support this you are a >> coward. > I >> > >> > disagree. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Dana >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > John Stanley writes: >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > Simple situation: >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > If a country invaded the united states, and everyone had to >> > >> choose >> > >> > (which >> > >> > > > is >> > >> > > > > what would happen) >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > You would either: >> > >> > > > > 1. fight for the US (patriot) >> > >> > > > > 2. fight against the US (traitor) >> > >> > > > > 3. not fight (coward) >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > That's it. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > If you object to fighting on the basis of some personal >> moral >> > > decision >> > >> > > > when >> > >> > > > > your homeland is at stake, then you are a coward. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > If you are drafted and you choose not to fight then you are >> a >> > > coward. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > >> > > > > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:16 PM >> > >> > > > > To: CF-Community >> > >> > > > > Subject: RE: A good american >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Buddism. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > If you can call the Dali Lama a coward, you don't know the >> > >> story. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > I must admit I find your conviction that anyone who doesn't > go >> > >> in >> > > guns >> > >> > > > > blazing is a coward to be very depressing, I hope that that >> sort >> > > of >> > >> > > > > ultra aggressive attitude will die out soon. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > >> > > > > > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > > > > Sent: 11 June 2003 16:09 >> > >> > > > > > To: CF-Community >> > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: A good american >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Of course I hold them in contempt, and likewise term them >> > >> > > > > > "Cowards" There is no recognized religion that opposes >> war, >> > >> > > > > > none at all. In fact all of them have a history of >> > >> > > > > > oppression, war, exploiting the meek, preferring to keep > the >> > >> > > > > > faithful ignorant, and couching their dogma is falsehoods > and >> > >> > > > > > deception. There is no sincere opposition to armed > conflict, >> > >> > > > > > only cowardice. Genuine Conscientious Objectors are > nothing >> > >> > > > > > more than cowards, and as such are parasitic upon > legitimate >> > >> > > > > > government and its loyal people. They should all be >> either >> > >> > > > > > exported or executed. >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > You sadly misquote Ghandi, Mother Theresa and Martin >> Luther >> > >> > > > > > King. and are completely wrong about the Mennonites. >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > But, you will survive, because the majority of the > citizenry >> > >> > > > > > will bear arms to defend your rights and constitutional >> > >> > > > > > protections, as well as permitting you to espouse your >> lies >> > >> > > > > > and deceptions. >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > ====================================== >> > >> > > > > > Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! >> > >> > > > > > For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com >> > >> > > > > > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 >> > >> > > > > > ====================================== >> > >> > > > > > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't > done! >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Larry C. > Lyons" >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:52 AM >> > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: A good american >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > | So I take it that you hold in contempt those who have a >> > > sincere, >> > >> > > > > > | religious or otherwise, conviction that serving in the >> > > military is >> > >> > > > > > | wrong. Its great to know that there are those who would >> > >> gladly >> > >> > > > > > | persecute others based on their beliefs. Genuine >> > >> conscientious >> > >> > > > > > | objectors would fall under your rubric. People like > Ghandi, >> > > Mother >> > >> > > > > > | Teresa, Martin Luther King etc have those beliefs. >> There >> are >> > > other >> > >> > > > > > | groups like the Mennonites who also have very strong >> > >> > > > > > religious beliefs >> > >> > > > > > | against serving in the military. >> > >> > > > > > | >> > >> > > > > > | Such ignorance is appalling. >> > >> > > > > > | >> > >> > > > > > | larry >> > >> > > > > > | >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
