Dana,

You can do better than this.  Rambling, interesting, but basically a
meaningless bitch session.   .Doesn't the author believe in a thesis statement
and an organized discussion that drives to some point?  Any point.  Heck, pick
2-3 points and then connect them.

 It appears that the author is just throwing facts up against the wall and
hoping that something sticks.  For example....

  "A 1997 prepared by an Oak Ridge analyst for the Department of Energy
estimated the 1996 military cost of defending oil supplies in the Middle East
range -- in peacetime -- at $32 billion. (Patricia Hu) The cost of war in Iraq
has been estimated at $50 to $100 billion, paid largely by the American
taxpayer, unlike the first Gulf War where America had significant help from
allies. "This time we'll probably pay 80 to 90 percent of the cost of the war
ourselves," said Michael O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institution."

So what's the net of this?  Break even in 2-3 years?  If so, this is a good
investment.  Ok, how about ...

  "CEOs in general receive huge performance bonuses for cutting jobs, despite
declining shareholder returns. Their pay has also increased much faster than
that of the average worker. (LA Times)
  Shell Oil meanwhile approved a pay package that gives senior executives
shares worth double their salaries, after recently announcing 650 job losses
in the UK alone.(BBC) Worldwide 4,300 job cuts are planned due to declining
profits. (Business Times)"

This has nothing to due with Iraq or Bush and everything to do with corporate
pay, which, if my memory serves me right started before the current
administration.  Then he/she moves on to ...

  "The most notorious tax rebate was received by CSX, until recently headed by
the President's nominee for Secretary of the Treasury, John Snow. In the last
4 years, CSX reported U.S. profits of $934 billion, and they paid zero in U.S.
corporate taxes. In fact, they received rebates of $164 billion. In 1960,
corporations paid 23 percent of all Federal tax revenues. Last year, that
dropped to 9.5 percent, less than half of the share that corporations paid 40
years ago. (Sen. Mark Dayton)"

Isn't CSX a transportation company?  What do they have to due with Iraq?  Oil?
Who set the tax policies that governed CSX's taxes last year?  What does this
have to do with Bush?

  "And they are such good citizens anyway...."
For gods sake, where the H E double hockey stick is he/she going with
this?????  Oil companies bad?  Ok, add Steel companies bad, meat packing
companies bad, restaurants bad, farms bad.  Not disagreeing with idea that
corporations should be good citizens, I just don't see how everything ties
together and what he/she recommends.  It is easy to bitch, hard to solve.

  "Well, we meant well...."
How many Iraq's died each year under Saddam?  Give us a comparison.  And what
does this have to due with Corporate tax rates, executive pay or the military
cost of defending oil reserves or the overall cost of the war?
Again, Dana, you have proven yourself to be a much more persuasive and factual
debater to pass this trash around.


Hope everyone is enjoying or for you across the pond has enjoyed their Sunday.

Andy




-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 1:11 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: it's not abou the oil


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We're stumbling through the barrio....


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