Actually I had already seen it. I believe someone posted it here a while back. At the time, the war on Iraq was still a noble enterprise we were entering upon because we had no choice; Saddam had to go. I believe a few people here were shocked, including me. I still think the US is a country that wants to do the right thing and that is currently being led by corrupt, possibly badly mistaken, leaders. It troubles me when good people say well, war as an investment, ya, well, we should break even in a couple of years. A couple of years? What happened to liberating the Iraqi people from Saddam, getting the job done because no one else would?
As a side note, the breaking news page of this site says Bush now claims he can't find WMD because they were looted.... Did anyone else notice that now even the British think we need help keeping order in Iraq? Dana On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:13:36 +0100, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dana, I think you may find this story interesting, it's a primer on the > Project for the New American Century - I presume everyone is aware of > the organisation now, but this gives a good background as to what they > are up to: > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3544.htm > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2003 16:39 >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: it's not abou the oil >> >> >> I think the idea that it was not to Saddam's benefit to see sanctions >> lifted explains a lot. This guy was not after all known for his concern >> for his people except as a means to power, so it makes a lot of sense to >> me. Here is another link along the same line: >> http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,170782,00.html >> >> I am starting to think that there is no bottom to some of this. Do you >> know that Ken Lay was chairman of Bush's election committee? And that >> Janet Rehnquist, appointed by George Bush, delayed an investigation of a >> Florida pension plan until after Jeb Bush was re-elected? >> >> Dana >> >> Wayne Putterill writes: >> >> > Democracy is dead. >> > > A strong statement but when money buys anything (including the > >> presidency of the USA - $200 million for an election campaign???), the > >> populations wishes are ignored or ridiculed, corporates can buy > >> anything they want (including laws) and no real choice is offered > >> between parties or candidates, it's an inescapable conclusion. >> > > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Sent: 22 June 2003 12:26 >> > > To: CF-Community >> > > Subject: Re: it's not abou the oil >> > > > > > > Excellent essay, even if somewhat exaggerated in places, >> > > references enough fact to pretty well establish that the US > > is >> currently governed by a gang of crooks. Knowing the > > details as they >> apply to each country on the globe, it is no > > wonder why so much of >> the world resents the US. Of course > > Dubya spins it as being >> > > "anti-freedom" I guess in his dictionary, freedom is >> > > defined as the authority >> > > to rape and pillage any country for the personal self > > interest >> of the participants in its government. >> > > > > Add to that, the huge tax cuts granted to those who had >> > > previously been left out by the policies granting exemption > > to >> corporations, whose contributions to the revenue of the US > > >> government has been dropping steadily. Most amazing of all > > is how >> many of the rank and file middle class conservative > > types continue >> to support this gang. Even as you watch your > > retirement savings >> dwindle away, your income continues to > > drop, jobs simply >> evaporating and your government's debt > > jumping to record levels from >> surpluses only a few short > > years ago. This has long been the >> Republican Mantra, and > > that is to borrow against the future to >> benefit a few in the > > present. You can try to spin it any way you >> want to, the end > > result is the same. >> > > > > Were it not for the unbridled greed of the graduate MBAs of >> > > the past thirty or so years, none of this would have ever > > been >> made public. The most disturbing of all, is that now > > that it is >> public, the worst case scenario for the crooked > > corporate management >> is that they get to keep their ill > > gotten gains and will >> > > pay little or no penalties for their mis-conduct. That is, > > as >> long as they >> > > continue to be major contributors of money to the politicians > > >> that regulate them. >> > > > > Agreed that this is not strictly a Republican issue, (41% to >> > > Democrats, 59% to >> > > Republicans) they are in the position to create a "return to > > >> moral responsibility." What a pipe dream that would be, > > because >> they are just not going to do that. It is not a need > > to create more >> criminal laws either, because they are already > > on the books and have >> been for years. The political party in > > power controls who gets >> prosecuted, and their track records > > shows they do not indict their >> friends. Contributors are > > friends, you know? >> > > > > On a lighter side, The article mentioned that the average >> > > wage in Nigeria is $1 per day, and according to the spew of > > >> email that I receive, there are literally hundreds of > > millions >> stashed here and there, that only with my help can > > the Nigerians >> individuals rise above the poverty level. Gee, > > if only the offered >> commissions could be directed to > > reduction of the National Debt, >> there would be no deficit and > > no one would begrudge the obscene >> theft in progress by some > > corporate executives. >> > > > > Ahh, so much for my Sunday Morning analysis, got to get ready >> > > to go to church! >> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 1:10 AM >> > > Subject: it's not abou the oil >> > > > > > > | http://210.50.193.224/Untitled-1.html >> > > | >> > > | -- >> > > | Mr Jones and me >> > > | We're stumbling through the barrio.... >> > > | >> > > | > > > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. 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