I can't imagine advocating large central government. I am against
redistribution of wealth, especially Social Security. Applauding
non-smoking laws does not equal advocating tighter control over business. I
do think we should keep at least some of the existing controls but I don't
think I advocated new ones. And when did I say anythng about socialized
health care? I think I criticized Canada's system, actually. Well, let's
see, I criticized HMO's at one point but... if I was in favor of socialized
health care I'd be living in Canada.

Dana

Heald, Tim writes:

> I think I was actually calling someone else a commie, but I was replying
> through the web interface, and forgot to quote what it was in response to.
> I think that collectivist is a more proper term.  Or possibly, my most hated
> enemy, altruist.  In various threads you have advocated large centralized
> government, redistribution of wealth, tighter control over business, and
> socialized health care.  All of these things speak to me of collectivism,
> socialism and yes communism.
> 
> Now I understand that you wouldn't want to label yourself as such, what with
> the negative connotations and all, but I think if you take a good hard look
> you will see that you believe in many of the things that these philosophies
> support.  Also remember that when I use the words communist and socialist I
> mean them as originally intended, not as the totalitarian hells that they
> invariably turn into.  Being a pure socialist or communist is not
> necessarily an insult, it can be just a description.
> 
> Of course I think that collectivism in all it's different shades is among
> the most evil belief systems around.
> 
> Timothy Heald
> Information Systems Specialist
> Overseas Security Advisory Council
> U.S. Department of State
> 571.345.2235
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:31 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: woo hoo
> 
> 
> oh. 
> 
> I thought that just became the point after I showed you what a public place
> was, this mind you in response to your demand that I show you what possible
> legal or other reason I could have for saying it was a public place. Or was
> that your evil twin? I forget. I do know Tim called me a Communist for
> saying it was. 
> 
> Anyway. I leave you with one final reference:
> 
> http://www.esgs.org/uk/log37.htm
> 
> And I will take the advice given there, which is to walk away.
> 
> Have a nice day.
> 
> Dana
> 
> Nagy, Daniel J writes:
> 
> > what were the oh, 15 or 25 emails before you started bringing up those,
> and
> > exempting the drunk in public one, i have to dispute the rest. never mind
> > how amazing it is that it comes back to you showing us examples of the
> law,
> > which wasn't the point. the point was should the -government have the
> right-
> > to do these things, not what is currently in effect.
> > 
> > --d.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:14 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: woo hoo
> > 
> > 
> > The "female" told you what the definition of a public place is and backed
> > it up with seven different references. If you *must* be irrationally
> > insulting at least be accurate.
> > 
> > Dana
> > 
> > > i can respect anyone who can validly make a point. i understand that
> isn't
> > > what you mean when you say that, but hence why when ian was talking
> about
> > > his view, at least i could understand the logical reasoning, unlike the
> > > female who just told us how she felt.
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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