Well Tim, considering you also think that I am in favor of socialized
medecine, I can't say I have a lot of respect for that opinion. I mean,
c'mon, you equate favoring non-smoking restaurants with being
anti-business. You are simply wrong, like when you claimed Canada was a
socialist country, hehe.

Dana

Heald, Tim writes:

> I am not saying that based on your last comments.  I am saying that based on
> our discussions over time I have come to the conclusion that you are indeed
> a collectivist.  I am also saying that I don't think you realize it on any
> conscious level.  You tend to have opinions on individual political matters,
> not one larger overriding image of what the government should look like.
> When you take all of your opinions together this is the impression I have
> gotten.
> 
> Also I am not saying that you don't deserve to hold these opinions, or have
> a job or should be black listed, so I think the McCarthy label is a bit off.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:33 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries)
> 
> 
> what??? How do you get "collectivist thought" out of a summary of a dead
> philosopher's writing?? I didn't even say I agreed with him (or her) and am
> at a loss to see how you get collectivism out of it in the first place.
> 
> McCarthyism Alert on Tim.
> 
> Dana
> 
> Heald, Tim writes:
> 
> > This is one of those times when I think you don't see what the sum result
> of
> > your own beliefs is.  I believe there is more of collectivist thought in
> you
> > than you realize.
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:39 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries)
> > 
> > 
> > > > Mill's and Bentham's writing on utilitarianism claim that 
> > > > when you work for yourself and your own happiness, your truly 
> > > > working for "society" or the community. 
> > 
> > Actually, I think it was the other way around. I have not read Bentham but
> > Mills said that altruistic acts in fact provide the doer with utility,
> such
> > as good feelings about himself. Assuming that it was Mills that wrote
> > Utilitarianism; a lot of people seem to think it was his wife.
> > 
> > > > liberal at times (I may be getting confused, I think Dana and 
> > > > Larry are the only ones that I really have pegged at this 
> > > > point.). 
> > 
> > Not based on that summary of my alleged beliefs the other day you dont :)
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Dana
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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