I am not saying that based on your last comments.  I am saying that based on
our discussions over time I have come to the conclusion that you are indeed
a collectivist.  I am also saying that I don't think you realize it on any
conscious level.  You tend to have opinions on individual political matters,
not one larger overriding image of what the government should look like.
When you take all of your opinions together this is the impression I have
gotten.

Also I am not saying that you don't deserve to hold these opinions, or have
a job or should be black listed, so I think the McCarthy label is a bit off.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:33 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries)


what??? How do you get "collectivist thought" out of a summary of a dead
philosopher's writing?? I didn't even say I agreed with him (or her) and am
at a loss to see how you get collectivism out of it in the first place.

McCarthyism Alert on Tim.

Dana

Heald, Tim writes:

> This is one of those times when I think you don't see what the sum result
of
> your own beliefs is.  I believe there is more of collectivist thought in
you
> than you realize.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:39 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries)
> 
> 
> > > Mill's and Bentham's writing on utilitarianism claim that 
> > > when you work for yourself and your own happiness, your truly 
> > > working for "society" or the community. 
> 
> Actually, I think it was the other way around. I have not read Bentham but
> Mills said that altruistic acts in fact provide the doer with utility,
such
> as good feelings about himself. Assuming that it was Mills that wrote
> Utilitarianism; a lot of people seem to think it was his wife.
> 
> > > liberal at times (I may be getting confused, I think Dana and 
> > > Larry are the only ones that I really have pegged at this 
> > > point.). 
> 
> Not based on that summary of my alleged beliefs the other day you dont :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Dana
> 
> 

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