http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-8.4/57466.html

Real Properties act.

Timothy Heald
Information Systems Specialist
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
571.345.2235


-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:01 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries)


Do you know that if you buy a house in Texas the mineral rights are not
normally included? I haven't researched the question in Canada and most of
my relatives live within city limits. Which province are we talking about?
Even if true, This would by your definition make Texas a socialist state. I
don't think so. And if we are going to get into countries that give money
to oil companies... hehe. I haven't reseached this in Canada, but I can
pull out beaucoup links about Haliburton and the rest of the gang making
billions in Iraq. Does this make the US a socialist state?

And you say *I* am oversimplifying. 

As for taxes, to hear you guys you pay plenty in taxes. You sure Canadians
pay more? I thought you were going to look this up.

I have a problem with the statement because it is wrong, Tim, you say these
things and then you can't back them up. I asked you for links about this
last Thursday. Put up or shut up.

Dana

Heald, Tim writes:

> They own their houses, but they have no mineral rights to what's under the
> ground.  Also look into Esso and the amount of money it gets from the
> government sometime.  Look at the utilities and who owns and runs those.
> 
> Your oversimplifying this a lot you know.  BTW they pay far more in taxes
> than we do.  Hell GST, provincial and federal taxes, supporting all of
these
> various social programs.
> 
> I don't know why you have such a problem with the word?  How would you
> define it?  Is there some stigma you attach to socialist?
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:33 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries)
> 
> 
> Well all I know is that Tim claimed that it was socialist because the
large
> industries are government owned and something about property rights,
> neither of which is true. I have been in the states a long time but I have
> family in Canada and ya they own houses, work and pay taxes in very much
> the same way that I do.
> 
> Dana
> 
> Nick McClure writes:
> 
> > That is only part of the equation.
> > 
> > Socialism and democracy are not mutually exclusive, you can have a
> socialist
> > democracy, capitalist monarchy or a communist republic.
> > 
> > Socialism or capitalism is the economic side, democracy or dictatorship
is
> > the political side.
> > 
> > I would say that Canada is not a 100% capitalist country. There are
> > obviously capitalist ideas, but there are a number of socialist ideas as
> > well.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:04 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries)
> > > 
> > > It's a parliamentary democracy.
> > > 
> > > Dana
> > > 
> > > Heald, Tim writes:

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