your point is? It says that title in Canada ultimately derives from the
governement. True in the US also, especially out West.

I see that and raise you the much more readable

http://makeashorterlink.com/?U16665235

which is a publication of Texas A&M University.

Dana

Heald, Tim writes:

> http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-8.4/57466.html
> 
> Real Properties act.
> 
> Timothy Heald
> Information Systems Specialist
> Overseas Security Advisory Council
> U.S. Department of State
> 571.345.2235
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:01 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries)
> 
> 
> Do you know that if you buy a house in Texas the mineral rights are not
> normally included? I haven't researched the question in Canada and most of
> my relatives live within city limits. Which province are we talking about?
> Even if true, This would by your definition make Texas a socialist state. I
> don't think so. And if we are going to get into countries that give money
> to oil companies... hehe. I haven't reseached this in Canada, but I can
> pull out beaucoup links about Haliburton and the rest of the gang making
> billions in Iraq. Does this make the US a socialist state?
> 
> And you say *I* am oversimplifying. 
> 
> As for taxes, to hear you guys you pay plenty in taxes. You sure Canadians
> pay more? I thought you were going to look this up.
> 
> I have a problem with the statement because it is wrong, Tim, you say these
> things and then you can't back them up. I asked you for links about this
> last Thursday. Put up or shut up.
> 
> Dana
> 
> Heald, Tim writes:
> 
> > They own their houses, but they have no mineral rights to what's under the
> > ground.  Also look into Esso and the amount of money it gets from the
> > government sometime.  Look at the utilities and who owns and runs those.
> > 
> > Your oversimplifying this a lot you know.  BTW they pay far more in taxes
> > than we do.  Hell GST, provincial and federal taxes, supporting all of
> these
> > various social programs.
> > 
> > I don't know why you have such a problem with the word?  How would you
> > define it?  Is there some stigma you attach to socialist?
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:33 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries)
> > 
> > 
> > Well all I know is that Tim claimed that it was socialist because the
> large
> > industries are government owned and something about property rights,
> > neither of which is true. I have been in the states a long time but I have
> > family in Canada and ya they own houses, work and pay taxes in very much
> > the same way that I do.
> > 
> > Dana
> > 
> > Nick McClure writes:
> > 
> > > That is only part of the equation.
> > > 
> > > Socialism and democracy are not mutually exclusive, you can have a
> > socialist
> > > democracy, capitalist monarchy or a communist republic.
> > > 
> > > Socialism or capitalism is the economic side, democracy or dictatorship
> is
> > > the political side.
> > > 
> > > I would say that Canada is not a 100% capitalist country. There are
> > > obviously capitalist ideas, but there are a number of socialist ideas as
> > > well.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:04 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries)
> > > > 
> > > > It's a parliamentary democracy.
> > > > 
> > > > Dana
> > > > 
> > > > Heald, Tim writes:
> 
> 
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