Prove, factually, that smoking causes cancer.  It's still not a fact.  I
think it does, don't get me wrong.  Just playing devils advocate.

Timothy Heald
Information Systems Specialist
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
571.345.2235


-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:20 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: And we Americans are sue happy?


You CAN be. Does this mean nobody ever get sick from smoking?

Dana


Heald, Tim writes:

> I smoke a lot, when I was still on active duty in the Army I both smoked
and
> dipped (mainly in the field to stay awake), I still ran, climbed, jumped
out
> of airplanes and so forth.  You can be a totally healthy smoker.  Hell I
am
> still in much better shape than anyone else I am friends with, other than
> Crit.
> 
> Timothy Heald
> Information Systems Specialist
> Overseas Security Advisory Council
> U.S. Department of State
> 571.345.2235
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:00 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: And we Americans are sue happy?
> 
> 
> There's some truth to this. However, after spending a year indexing the RJ
> Renolds documents, it seems to me that a very large advertising budget was
> spent convincing people that it wasn't really so. Think about all those
> cigarette ads showing healthy people engaged in rock climbing or whatever
> with a cigarette in their hand. That was deliberate. Liquor ads similarly
> portray drinking as the thing to do in a social setting. I very rarely
> drink either, but I notice that people who notice me ordering coke in a
> setting where everyone else is drinking generally assume I have a
"drinking
> problem" rather than that I just don't care to drink. Tells me drinking is
> still seen by many folks as the thing to do, probably in large part due to
> advertising. Now do I have to do it just because it is seen by some people
> as the thing to do? No, of course not. Do some people go with the flow? I
> am sure....
> 
> Dana
> 
> 
> Phillip B writes:
> 
> > > In the 50's and 60's, nobody knew it was bad for them, so it was
"sexy"
> > >
> > 
> > This bothers me. My Grandfather heard smoking was bad some time during
the
> > 50's. He told me he was plowing a field when he heard on the radio it
was
> > bad for you. At that moment he put out his cigarette and pitched the
rest
> > and never smoked again.
> > 
> > People have known for a _long_ time that smoking and drinking were bad
for
> > you. The problem is it was fashionable to do it. If you think back to
old
> > black and white films you will see how they were used as devices to make
a
> > point in the film. The result of that was people wanted to mimic the
> people
> > on screen. People are influenced in the way they dress, smoke,
> vacation....
> > The list goes on and on. I am not blaming Hollywood. I am saying that it
> has
> > an influence in what we do.
> > 
> > People suing for alcohol and cigarettes really bother me. I stared
smoking
> > and drinking when I was in 5th grade. I still drink once in a while and
> will
> > never smoke again. Did I know smoking was bad? Yes. Did I know drinking
> was
> > bad? Yes. Will I sue some one for my choices? No. I made the decision to
> do
> > it and I accept what ever may happen to me.
> > 
> > If more people would quit blaming others for their misfortune, the world
> > would be a better place. God isn't punishing me. The neighbor didn't
make
> > his dog poop in my yard. My parents didn't make me need glasses. They
just
> > happened. We need to suck it up and deal with it.
> > 
> > I'll be quite now. :)
> > 
> > Phillip B.
> > 
> > www.LoungeRoyale.com
> > www.FillWorks.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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