::nod:: I do think its a sort of double think though. Incidentally I smoked while working on this project. About 2 packs a day at the time. Since we were indirectly (through court order) RJR employees, the smoking of competing brands was very much frowned upon. And so anyway there was box after boc of scientific stidies but of course nobody "knew" that cigarettes cause cancer because none of these documents "prove" anything. Come on. If they were so convinced it was good for people they would not have instructed us to cheat on the indexing.
Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Dana, > > I used to work for Del Monte Foods hq, and we were acquired by RJR while I > worked for them. > > In 1980, had to go to Winston-Salem on business. Bumper stickers all > over "North Carolina Has Pride in Tobacco". Got a tour of the Winston plant. > You would not BELIEVE the enormous quantity of cigs spewing out of that place > per hour (maybe you would). > > Much of the state of NC made a living from tobacco - farmers getting tobacco > subsidies from Dept. of Agriculture, people working for the tobacco companies, > etc. > > So you think they're going to bad-mouth it? > > -Ben > > > There's some truth to this. However, after spending a year indexing the RJ > > Renolds documents, it seems to me that a very large advertising budget was > > spent convincing people that it wasn't really so. Think about all those > > cigarette ads showing healthy people engaged in rock climbing or whatever > > with a cigarette in their hand. That was deliberate. Liquor ads similarly > > portray drinking as the thing to do in a social setting. I very rarely > > drink either, but I notice that people who notice me ordering coke in a > > setting where everyone else is drinking generally assume I have a "drinking > > problem" rather than that I just don't care to drink. Tells me drinking is > > still seen by many folks as the thing to do, probably in large part due to > > advertising. Now do I have to do it just because it is seen by some people > > as the thing to do? No, of course not. Do some people go with the flow? I > > am sure.... > > > > Dana > > > > > > Phillip B writes: > > > > > > In the 50's and 60's, nobody knew it was bad for them, so it was "sexy" > > > > > > > > > > This bothers me. My Grandfather heard smoking was bad some time during the > > > 50's. He told me he was plowing a field when he heard on the radio it was > > > bad for you. At that moment he put out his cigarette and pitched the rest > > > and never smoked again. > > > > > > People have known for a _long_ time that smoking and drinking were bad for > > > you. The problem is it was fashionable to do it. If you think back to old > > > black and white films you will see how they were used as devices to make a > > > point in the film. The result of that was people wanted to mimic the people > > > on screen. People are influenced in the way they dress, smoke, vacation.... > > > The list goes on and on. I am not blaming Hollywood. I am saying that it has > > > an influence in what we do. > > > > > > People suing for alcohol and cigarettes really bother me. I stared smoking > > > and drinking when I was in 5th grade. I still drink once in a while and will > > > never smoke again. Did I know smoking was bad? Yes. Did I know drinking was > > > bad? Yes. Will I sue some one for my choices? No. I made the decision to do > > > it and I accept what ever may happen to me. > > > > > > If more people would quit blaming others for their misfortune, the world > > > would be a better place. God isn't punishing me. The neighbor didn't make > > > his dog poop in my yard. My parents didn't make me need glasses. They just > > > happened. We need to suck it up and deal with it. > > > > > > I'll be quite now. :) > > > > > > Phillip B. > > > > > > www.LoungeRoyale.com > > > www.FillWorks.com > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
