the question is whether your great grandfather would have chosen to use medecine X had he known it contained morphine, and he knew morphine was addictive. I probably would have refrained from using motrin when I was drinking, or from drinking when I was using motrin, if I had realized I might have to have a liver biopsy (or two) over it. Even though it looks as though no irreversible harm was done.
Dana Tim Heald writes: > Why shouldn't I be able to use morephine, or whatever drug I choose, hell > why shouldn't I be able to off myslef if I so choose? > > Tim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:14 PM > Subject: Re: And we Americans are sue happy? > > > > sure. And so were we all when they were selling over the counter > > medications that contained mercury and morphine. Responsibility is one > > thing. Enough information to make an informed decision is another. I don't > > blame anyone but myself for the fact that I smoked as long as I did, but > > there is no question that advertising affected that decision and, having > > seen the internal marketing memos, I can assure you that the advertising > is > > deliberately and cynically geared, not to providing enough information, > but > > to selling cigarettes, and this at great expense to the public coffer. All > > those people dying of lung cancer and emphesyma eventually run out of > > money, depending on how heroic the measures taken on their behalf might > be. > > My favorite use of the money from the tobacco settlement is for PSAs > > presenting the effects of smoking. At least it balances out the > information > > available a little. > > > > Dana > > > > Nagy, Daniel J writes: > > > > > what does that have to do with it? > > > > > > we're all responsible for our own bodies, not corporations or the > > > government. > > > > > > --d. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:20 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: And we Americans are sue happy? > > > > > > > > > You CAN be. Does this mean nobody ever get sick from smoking? > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > Heald, Tim writes: > > > > > > > I smoke a lot, when I was still on active duty in the Army I both > smoked > > > and > > > > dipped (mainly in the field to stay awake), I still ran, climbed, > jumped > > > out > > > > of airplanes and so forth. You can be a totally healthy smoker. Hell > I > > > am > > > > still in much better shape than anyone else I am friends with, other > than > > > > Crit. > > > > > > > > Timothy Heald > > > > Information Systems Specialist > > > > Overseas Security Advisory Council > > > > U.S. Department of State > > > > 571.345.2235 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:00 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: And we Americans are sue happy? > > > > > > > > > > > > There's some truth to this. However, after spending a year indexing > the RJ > > > > Renolds documents, it seems to me that a very large advertising budget > was > > > > spent convincing people that it wasn't really so. Think about all > those > > > > cigarette ads showing healthy people engaged in rock climbing or > whatever > > > > with a cigarette in their hand. That was deliberate. Liquor ads > similarly > > > > portray drinking as the thing to do in a social setting. I very rarely > > > > drink either, but I notice that people who notice me ordering coke in > a > > > > setting where everyone else is drinking generally assume I have a > > > "drinking > > > > problem" rather than that I just don't care to drink. Tells me > drinking is > > > > still seen by many folks as the thing to do, probably in large part > due to > > > > advertising. Now do I have to do it just because it is seen by some > people > > > > as the thing to do? No, of course not. Do some people go with the > flow? I > > > > am sure.... > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > Phillip B writes: > > > > > > > > > > In the 50's and 60's, nobody knew it was bad for them, so it was > > > "sexy" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This bothers me. My Grandfather heard smoking was bad some time > during > > > the > > > > > 50's. He told me he was plowing a field when he heard on the radio > it > > > was > > > > > bad for you. At that moment he put out his cigarette and pitched the > > > rest > > > > > and never smoked again. > > > > > > > > > > People have known for a _long_ time that smoking and drinking were > bad > > > for > > > > > you. The problem is it was fashionable to do it. If you think back > to > > > old > > > > > black and white films you will see how they were used as devices to > make > > > a > > > > > point in the film. The result of that was people wanted to mimic the > > > > people > > > > > on screen. People are influenced in the way they dress, smoke, > > > > vacation.... > > > > > The list goes on and on. I am not blaming Hollywood. I am saying > that it > > > > has > > > > > an influence in what we do. > > > > > > > > > > People suing for alcohol and cigarettes really bother me. I stared > > > smoking > > > > > and drinking when I was in 5th grade. I still drink once in a while > and > > > > will > > > > > never smoke again. Did I know smoking was bad? Yes. Did I know > drinking > > > > was > > > > > bad? Yes. Will I sue some one for my choices? No. I made the > decision to > > > > do > > > > > it and I accept what ever may happen to me. > > > > > > > > > > If more people would quit blaming others for their misfortune, the > world > > > > > would be a better place. God isn't punishing me. The neighbor didn't > > > make > > > > > his dog poop in my yard. My parents didn't make me need glasses. > They > > > just > > > > > happened. We need to suck it up and deal with it. > > > > > > > > > > I'll be quite now. :) > > > > > > > > > > Phillip B. > > > > > > > > > > www.LoungeRoyale.com > > > > > www.FillWorks.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
