Well, this is probably what Isaac was thinking of. 

www.greenleft.org.au/back/2001/465/465p15.htm

I have no opinion on whether it's true or not. Seems possible, but I have
to go deal with stuff now, no time to look into it.

Dana

S. Isaac Dealey writes:

> It's not so much a matter of not reading history as much as it is that the fact that 
> it happened in the 90's as opposed to the 80's doesn't mean anything in an offhand 
> conversation, so I'm not apt to waste my time going back and double-checking all the 
> facts. It's not paying my bills. 
> 
> Yes I think we could pull something that large off and get away with it. IIRC the 
> report I read that claimed Osama was CIA trained was from a reasonably reputable 
> news source like CNN... But then that's another problem with "news" and "history" -- 
> it's too easily distorted or just plain inaccurate anyway. If you look at the WTC 
> event in and of itself, there were dozens if not hundreds of retractions by news 
> media for having made blatantly incorrect statements within the first few days. In 
> many cases for no better reason than "well, that's what we heard". Far from not 
> having enough news information, we had way too much, most of it wrong. 
> 
> I'm also not apt to believe all the facts in the CIA fact book can be taken at face 
> value. They are in the business of disinformation after all. If you can't trust a 
> sales person to give you good information about what you're buying because they have 
> a vested interrest in your buying it (and you often can't), why would you trust 
> someone who lies for a living to provide accurate information in a book published by 
> the organization that pays their bills?
> 
> It's the same sort of reasoning that defeats the idea that the christian Bible could 
> possibly have been preserved as the "holy word of God" and "everlasting truth". 
> 
> 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the 
> garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for 
> when you eat of it you will surely die." 
> 
> After telling adam and eve that the fruit is poisonous and will kill them, the snake 
> tells them what the fruit really is and what it will really do to them, so they eat 
> it and discover that the snake was telling the truth and then you have this:
> 
> 22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and 
> evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of 
> life and eat, and live forever."
> 
> Jehova in this story is a fearful liar. The book can not be the mouthpiece for a 
> deity that lies because otherwise it wouldn't present Jehova in a negative light, 
> lying in the story. Therefore the christian Bible can only have been written by 
> fallable men.
> 
> The moral of the story: don't trust people who lie for a living. 
> 
> 
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> 
> > Wow.
> 
> > Are the black helicopters flying over your house right
> > now?  Do you really
> > think we could pull something that large off and get away
> > with it?
> 
> > Osama was not CIA trained, some mujahadin were.  We didn't
> > put the taliban
> > in power, and they weren't in power until the 90's, there
> > was a soviet
> > puppet state there still in the 80's, and the Russians
> > were still there in
> > force.
> 
> > Get your head out of your fourth point of contact, read
> > some history.
> 
> > Tim
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:59 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: RE: Vacation!
> 
> 
> > I'd venture to say that I think "the war on terrorism" is
> > such
> > an ambitious concept as to be useless unless it's merely a
> > smokescreen of propaganda to facilitate the US committing
> > acts
> > of terrorism against others. Osama was after all CIA
> > trained.
> > Or so said the reports I read. For that matter, the US put
> > the
> > Talaban in power in the 80's because we didn't like the
> > people
> > who were in power there at the time. Which is part of the
> > problem with the whole foreign policy issue. It's like
> > assassination -- what happens when someone is assassinated
> > in
> > many (if not most) cases is that someone else merely takes
> > that
> > person's place. My understanding is that the Talaban thing
> > is
> > the same sort of story -- you just replace one evil for
> > another.
> > But it creates jobs for people at the CIA, so I suppose it
> > can't be all bad.
> 
> > Isaac
> 
> > Original Message -----------------------
> > Well, right now we are supposed to be combating a guerilla
> > threat in
> > Iraq, finishing up a job in Afghanistan, and carrying out
> > a vigilant
> > campaign against the menance of International Terrorism.
> 
> > Is the war over? Because I want to know every single mfing
> > terrorist on
> > earth has been captured or killed before anyone who is
> > supposed to be
> > spearheading these efforts takes a break or a monthlong
> > vacation.
> 
> > M
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:24 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Vacation!
> 
> 
> > Was it George Bush Sr. or Clinton who's first act at the
> > beginning of the Gulf War was to go on a yacht trip? ...
> > I personally don't believe the presidents actions have
> > much
> > at all in consequence to the troops deployed in any really
> > meaningful way... Unless he's deciding to order their
> > sudden
> > withdrawl. I remember someone saying the explanation of
> > the
> > afforementioned yacht trip was to appear unthreatened by
> > the opponent. Apparently it's supposed to be intimidating
> > to
> > an enemy when you pretend to ignore them.
> 
> > Isaac
> 
> > Original Message -----------------------
> > http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=79159&S
> > ecID=2
> 
> > Um... Is it just me, or does this seem weird?
> 
> > Should a President to take a month off while troops are
> > deployed and
> > fighting in another country?
> 
> 
> 
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