I disagree, IMHO, "Respecting an Establishment of Religion", should be considered such that government cannot endorse any individual religion.
To me, placing a monument of the 10 Commandments is on the same level of government endorsement. Courts judge based on the facts and the law, the 10 Commandments are not laws, only a few of them have actually translated into laws. Murder, Perjury, and Theft. If I remember, you can legally be envious of your neighbor, and if daytime talk shows have shown anything is that you don't have to honor your parents. And we have made illegal one of the things the Commandments seems to condone, slavery. The 10 Commandments has no place in government buildings, especially legal buildings. > -----Original Message----- > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:09 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 10 commandments > > 1. This is not requiring the commandments to be located there in all > federal buildings. > > 2. This does not make a national religion, such as the church of Britain, > which is what the amendment is talking about. > > Timothy Heald > Information Systems Specialist > Overseas Security Advisory Council > U.S. Department of State > 571.345.2235 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:46 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 10 commandments > > > It says congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of > religion. > > By placing a purely religions document as a central display piece, that > seems to me that the government is supporting that individual religion. > > While it doesn't prevent the free exercise of other religions, it does > show > support for one religion in general, which the Constitution forbids. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:36 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: 10 commandments > > > > Please reread that, Larry - there are two sides to this coin. It says > > nowhere that there may not be any religion in a government building. It > > actually says that governement may not prohibit the free exercise > thereof > > - > > a clear case that the 10 Commandments are allowed anywhere a person > wants > > them, including a government building. If you're referring to the > section > > "no law respecting an establishment of religion", you need only to ask > > what > > the law was that made people entering the building and viewing the Ten > > Commandments become Christans. > > > > I want to say that I do not advocate a national religion - I don't want > > anybody telling me how to worship - but the doctrine of "Spearation of > > Church and State" has become a crusade against allowing the free > > expression > > of religion by anybody even remotely involved with the government, a > clear > > violation of the First Amendment. > > > > - Matt Small > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:20 AM > > Subject: Re: 10 commandments > > > > > > > At 08:12 AM 8/28/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > >There IS NO SEPARATION CLAUSE! > > > > > > > > > >Constitutional Amendments 1-10: The Bill of Rights > > > > > > > >Note: The following text is a transcription of the first 10 > amendments > > to > > > >the Constitution in their original form. These amendments were > ratified > > > >December 15, 1791, and form what is known as the "Bill of Rights." > > > > > > > >Amendment I > > > > > > > >Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, > or > > > >prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of > > speech, > > > >or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, > and > > to > > > >petition the Government for a redress of grievances. > > > > > > By including the phrase under god to the pledge of Allegience, by an > act > > of > > > Congress, this apprears to violate the separation clause in Amendment > 1 > > of > > > the Constitution. > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
