Jim, I had the fortune of meeting Norm Coleman last night, the Senator from Minnesota. He is very involved with the whole music sharing piece of the internet and seems to know what he is talking about. He is very against the RIAA just grabing information and going after the little guy. He made some good points. I told him to tell Orin Hatch to keep his yapper shut when it comes to things he knows nothing about! At least one politician seems to understand technology and the issues surrounding it.
Kevin >The thing is, when I hear a politician refer to Doom as a recent game >(and I don't mean Doom 3) or the "Napster Website", I cringe, as these >are the people who are working on national legislation that's basically >going to regulate something they're not proving to have even the most >fundamental understanding of. > >This isn't to say that Dean is an intarweb (I love that word) guru, but >I'm hoping that at least a glimmer of technical acumen on his >[campaign's?] part will translate to forward-looking policies on the net >and ways the government can help build the net and where the government >should keep out of it. > >- Jim > >Kevin Graeme wrote: > >>Actually, I meant it from a social standpoint. It's not like this intar-web >>is some newfangled thing that nobody uses. I mean, I understand that >>business would shy away from putting their stuff out there since it's just a >>bunch of geeks and kids and retirees that sit around and chatrooms and >>stuff, right? No, no. There's no place for business online, so there >>obviously must be no place for respectable politicians. >> >>/sarcasm >> >>Not picking on you, just constantly amazed at how stuck in a rut so many >>political people are. Dean's just doing what everyone else should be. And I >>don't think he's doing so because he's brilliant. He just seems a little >>more aware of, oh, the rest of the fucking world than the other candidates. >> >>I mean look at California. Ah-nold goes on Access Hollywood and all the >>political people get their knickers in a twist. You mean, people watch >>something OTHER than news and Sunday morning talking heads? >> >>-Kevin >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Jim Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:50 AM >>Subject: Re: Dean and the media >> >> >> >> >>>Well, not brilliant from a technical standpoint, but brilliant from a >>>social standpoint. The idea of a "grassroots" candidate is not new, but >>>one that takes advantage of the internet and its capabilities for >>>creating communities of people with similar interests rather than just >>>the perfunctory website is, in the grand scheme of things, pretty astute. >>> >>>- Jim >>> >>>Kevin Graeme wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I too like his use of the Internet, but I wouldn't call it brilliant. I >>>>rather think that everyone else's campaign is collosally stupid for not >>>>doing so. >>>> >>>>Last election, Deanna and I worked on a project that was a web and >>>>interactive TV application that provided candidate information and on >>>>election night provided live updates for your chosen race/candidates that >>>>overlayed the PBS tv coverage. >>>> >>>>-Kevin >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Jim Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:32 AM >>>>Subject: Re: Dean and the media >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I just don't know that much about him. Not that there's a dearth of >>>>>information about him online - his campaign's use of the internet so far >>>>>has been brilliant, and will likely be emulated at least in part by >>>>>candidates for the forseeable future, especially if he lands the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>nomination. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>- Jim >>>>> >>>>>Kevin Schmidt wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I like Dean's gun policies, but high taxes and high spending, like in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>Vermont is not middle of the road. His ideas on taxes and spending are >>>> >>>> >>way >> >> >>>>to the left. I have met him twice and each time he left the impression >>>> >>>> >>with >> >> >>>>me that he is soft on defense, which just doesn't bode well with me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I think Dean's liberal mantle is mostly propped up by Vermont's "civil >>>>>>> >>>>>>>union" provision for homosexual couples. Dean's fairly >>>>>>>middle-of-the-road in regards to some things, namely gun ownership and >>>>>>> >>>>>>>his fiscal policies. He seems like a nice guy and a reasonable >>>>>>>candidate, but he imploded on "Meet The Press" a couple of months ago. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>- Jim >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Kevin Schmidt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Mike, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>He's very liberal, which is why he has been able to pull out the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>fringe groups. He even said himself, "A centrist in Vermont, is a >>>>>>>liberal everywhere else." He touts a balanced budget, but when you >>>>>>>have taxes as high as they are in Vermont, it's not hard. He's also >>>>>>>weak on defense in my opinion. His problem is going to be when it >>>>>>>comes to states outside of Iowa and New Hampshire, when those "fringe" >>>>>>>groups that he has built his base on aren't there in the same numbers. >>>>>>>I think you will see Dean fade late, especially if Wesley Clark jumps >>>>>>>in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Of course you can see me with Governor Dean at http://www.ninedwarfs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I'm looking at some of the mail in my outlook and there's some >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>interesting >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>things here. A CF programmer looking to make a Dean fan site, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>Klingons for Dean, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Sims for Dean, etc. I don't know who this guy is, yet I see grass >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>roots groups >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>jumping up for him. Groups that are not the norm, fringe even >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>(People dressed up >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>as Klingons can be classified as such). >>>>>>>>>Now if I wanted to become president, I'd manipulate my ratings in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>the exact same >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>way this guy seems to be doing. Get all the small groups together as >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>well as the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>big ones. Perfect building for a presidential bid. >>>>>>>>>So is it all true? Does he really have support from Klingons, geeks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>and all the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>'others'? Who is he? What does he actually stand for? I already know >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>Bush and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>don't like him much and I despise Lieberman, so who's left? >>>>>>>>>Yeah, its early for politics, but.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Michael Dinowitz >>>>>>>>>Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>yet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
