Agreement++ Great gnashing of teeth over that.
-Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Dean and the media > The thing is, when I hear a politician refer to Doom as a recent game > (and I don't mean Doom 3) or the "Napster Website", I cringe, as these > are the people who are working on national legislation that's basically > going to regulate something they're not proving to have even the most > fundamental understanding of. > > This isn't to say that Dean is an intarweb (I love that word) guru, but > I'm hoping that at least a glimmer of technical acumen on his > [campaign's?] part will translate to forward-looking policies on the net > and ways the government can help build the net and where the government > should keep out of it. > > - Jim > > Kevin Graeme wrote: > > >Actually, I meant it from a social standpoint. It's not like this intar-web > >is some newfangled thing that nobody uses. I mean, I understand that > >business would shy away from putting their stuff out there since it's just a > >bunch of geeks and kids and retirees that sit around and chatrooms and > >stuff, right? No, no. There's no place for business online, so there > >obviously must be no place for respectable politicians. > > > >/sarcasm > > > >Not picking on you, just constantly amazed at how stuck in a rut so many > >political people are. Dean's just doing what everyone else should be. And I > >don't think he's doing so because he's brilliant. He just seems a little > >more aware of, oh, the rest of the fucking world than the other candidates. > > > >I mean look at California. Ah-nold goes on Access Hollywood and all the > >political people get their knickers in a twist. You mean, people watch > >something OTHER than news and Sunday morning talking heads? > > > >-Kevin > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jim Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:50 AM > >Subject: Re: Dean and the media > > > > > > > > > >>Well, not brilliant from a technical standpoint, but brilliant from a > >>social standpoint. The idea of a "grassroots" candidate is not new, but > >>one that takes advantage of the internet and its capabilities for > >>creating communities of people with similar interests rather than just > >>the perfunctory website is, in the grand scheme of things, pretty astute. > >> > >>- Jim > >> > >>Kevin Graeme wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>I too like his use of the Internet, but I wouldn't call it brilliant. I > >>>rather think that everyone else's campaign is collosally stupid for not > >>>doing so. > >>> > >>>Last election, Deanna and I worked on a project that was a web and > >>>interactive TV application that provided candidate information and on > >>>election night provided live updates for your chosen race/candidates that > >>>overlayed the PBS tv coverage. > >>> > >>>-Kevin > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Jim Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:32 AM > >>>Subject: Re: Dean and the media > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I just don't know that much about him. Not that there's a dearth of > >>>>information about him online - his campaign's use of the internet so far > >>>>has been brilliant, and will likely be emulated at least in part by > >>>>candidates for the forseeable future, especially if he lands the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>nomination. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>- Jim > >>>> > >>>>Kevin Schmidt wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I like Dean's gun policies, but high taxes and high spending, like in > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>Vermont is not middle of the road. His ideas on taxes and spending are > >>> > >>> > >way > > > > > >>>to the left. I have met him twice and each time he left the impression > >>> > >>> > >with > > > > > >>>me that he is soft on defense, which just doesn't bode well with me. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>I think Dean's liberal mantle is mostly propped up by Vermont's "civil > >>>>>> > >>>>>>union" provision for homosexual couples. Dean's fairly > >>>>>>middle-of-the-road in regards to some things, namely gun ownership and > >>>>>> > >>>>>>his fiscal policies. He seems like a nice guy and a reasonable > >>>>>>candidate, but he imploded on "Meet The Press" a couple of months ago. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>- Jim > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Kevin Schmidt wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Mike, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>He's very liberal, which is why he has been able to pull out the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>fringe groups. He even said himself, "A centrist in Vermont, is a > >>>>>>liberal everywhere else." He touts a balanced budget, but when you > >>>>>>have taxes as high as they are in Vermont, it's not hard. He's also > >>>>>>weak on defense in my opinion. His problem is going to be when it > >>>>>>comes to states outside of Iowa and New Hampshire, when those "fringe" > >>>>>>groups that he has built his base on aren't there in the same numbers. > >>>>>>I think you will see Dean fade late, especially if Wesley Clark jumps > >>>>>>in. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Of course you can see me with Governor Dean at http://www.ninedwarfs. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I'm looking at some of the mail in my outlook and there's some > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>interesting > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>things here. A CF programmer looking to make a Dean fan site, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>Klingons for Dean, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Sims for Dean, etc. I don't know who this guy is, yet I see grass > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>roots groups > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>jumping up for him. Groups that are not the norm, fringe even > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>(People dressed up > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>as Klingons can be classified as such). > >>>>>>>>Now if I wanted to become president, I'd manipulate my ratings in > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>the exact same > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>way this guy seems to be doing. Get all the small groups together as > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>well as the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>big ones. Perfect building for a presidential bid. > >>>>>>>>So is it all true? Does he really have support from Klingons, geeks > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>and all the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>'others'? Who is he? What does he actually stand for? I already know > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>Bush and > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>don't like him much and I despise Lieberman, so who's left? > >>>>>>>>Yeah, its early for politics, but.... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Michael Dinowitz > >>>>>>>>Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>yet > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
