cannot communicate these days.
If you have a well-defined hierarchy with enough people (IE: you have
several coder-types underneath a manager who HAS communication skills &
techie-skills), perhaps people with poor communication skills can still be
excellent coders, as long as they never have to get beyond that level OR
speak coherently to someone other than their manager.
I think the days of the stereotypical "IT-type hidden in the dark room" are
over. Or are beginning to be over. I think a well-rounded education that
includes a significant portion of liberal arts exposes a person on HOW to
learn anything & communicate effectively, which in the long-run makes a more
adaptive & effective employee.
But that's just my opinion. And I certainly know CS-types who CAN
communicate effectively. I just know plenty who can't. A good liberal arts
major can learn ANYTHING. A significantly-focused engineering-type degree
teaches the person ONE thing very well, but nothing else.
My dos pesos.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:12 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF Salary Range
to personal development. but to ability ot do the job?
Dana
Josh Remus writes:
> I have a great degree in General Studies. I was originally a music
major,
> switched to CS, dropped out of school, and that was the only degree I
could
> go back and complete in reasonable time.
>
> However - having said that - except for specific engineering-type jobs
> (which I don't considering cf-coding, in general), I think a
well-rounded
> humanities/arts degree means much more than a CS one.
>
> Not to start a flame war. I know too many CS/CE-types who have no
ability
> to communicate in any medium.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:49 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF Salary Range
>
>
> I would like to know how many people on the list actually have a
CS/MIS
> degree.
>
> I do.
>
> - Matt Small
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dana Tierney
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: CF Salary Range
>
>
> OK, I will concede that the SQl class was helpful. And despite the
focus
> on
> PASCAL in comp sci 1 and 2, I learned a lot about programming per
se.
> But
> whether I could have learned the same material without being present
in
> a
> classroom from 10 to 11 on Tuesdays and Thursdays is what I am
> questioning.
> I think so...
>
> Dana
>
> Dana
>
> Jeffry Houser writes:
>
> > If the classes you took focused on a language, I can understand
how
> they
> > may not be applicable to web development. But, a good curriculum
will
> > concentrate on theory. I apply programming theory every day. I'm
> sure
> > that many will agree that to get anywhere when building dynamic
web
> pages
> > you need to know something about database design.
> >
> > At 01:05 AM 10/1/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >
>
>
>
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