people" then I suppose you are right. I certainly think the liberal arts
are valuable - the interdisciplinary honors classes I "wasted" time on in
college were some of the best time I ever invested -- but if you really had
to define a core skill for a code it would be proven ability to code, no?
Dana
Josh Remus writes:
> As far as I'm concerned, there's no coder-job that I can justify someone who
> cannot communicate these days.
>
> If you have a well-defined hierarchy with enough people (IE: you have
> several coder-types underneath a manager who HAS communication skills &
> techie-skills), perhaps people with poor communication skills can still be
> excellent coders, as long as they never have to get beyond that level OR
> speak coherently to someone other than their manager.
>
> I think the days of the stereotypical "IT-type hidden in the dark room" are
> over. Or are beginning to be over. I think a well-rounded education that
> includes a significant portion of liberal arts exposes a person on HOW to
> learn anything & communicate effectively, which in the long-run makes a more
> adaptive & effective employee.
>
> But that's just my opinion. And I certainly know CS-types who CAN
> communicate effectively. I just know plenty who can't. A good liberal arts
> major can learn ANYTHING. A significantly-focused engineering-type degree
> teaches the person ONE thing very well, but nothing else.
>
> My dos pesos.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:12 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF Salary Range
>
>
> to personal development. but to ability ot do the job?
>
> Dana
>
> Josh Remus writes:
>
> > I have a great degree in General Studies. I was originally a music
> major,
> > switched to CS, dropped out of school, and that was the only degree I
> could
> > go back and complete in reasonable time.
> >
> > However - having said that - except for specific engineering-type jobs
> > (which I don't considering cf-coding, in general), I think a
> well-rounded
> > humanities/arts degree means much more than a CS one.
> >
> > Not to start a flame war. I know too many CS/CE-types who have no
> ability
> > to communicate in any medium.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:49 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: CF Salary Range
> >
> >
> > I would like to know how many people on the list actually have a
> CS/MIS
> > degree.
> >
> > I do.
> >
> > - Matt Small
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dana Tierney
> > To: CF-Community
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: CF Salary Range
> >
> >
> > OK, I will concede that the SQl class was helpful. And despite the
> focus
> > on
> > PASCAL in comp sci 1 and 2, I learned a lot about programming per
> se.
> > But
> > whether I could have learned the same material without being present
> in
> > a
> > classroom from 10 to 11 on Tuesdays and Thursdays is what I am
> > questioning.
> > I think so...
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > Jeffry Houser writes:
> >
> > > If the classes you took focused on a language, I can understand
> how
> > they
> > > may not be applicable to web development. But, a good curriculum
> will
> > > concentrate on theory. I apply programming theory every day. I'm
> > sure
> > > that many will agree that to get anywhere when building dynamic
> web
> > pages
> > > you need to know something about database design.
> > >
> > > At 01:05 AM 10/1/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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