And a degree/certification would not help on a two month project to integrate a Progress based subscription system with a Java/Pervasive SQL based classifieds system with a Perl/Foxpro based Forum with a Cold Fusion/SQL Server based registration/online access system.
Years of development experience was what allowed that to happen.
The HR department doing the hiring had no idea what was actually needed for the job. So they could not ask for the certifications or experience they really needed. They advertised and hired a Cold Fusion programmer. The Cold Fusion coding was about 4 days of a two month project.
There are so many levels of experience, so many technologies, and so many different uses for that technology that I don't see certifications or degrees really helping anytime soon.
Just take a Cold Fusion cert for example.
It is less important (IMHO) for a developer to have Cold Fusion certification, or even CF experience, than it is for that developer to have coding experience in the industry they are coding for. Whether it is a 401(k) transaction site, a PKI infrastructure, a newspaper content delivery engine, Advertising Web pages, whatever. Industry knowledge and proven seat time beat certifications hands down. If they did it in ASP, they can do it in Cold Fusion. But if they did a sales brochure in Cold Fusion really well, that doesn't mean they can build a custom tag in C++ and use it.
A la carte certs might do it, though.
Trustmark 401(k) system integration.
AS/400 db design and maintenance.
Perl text file manipulation.
Cold Fusion 5.0 file read/write
Bulk Email management.
Perl Regex.
Multi-User Environment Version Control.
IIS Management and Tuning.
MS SQL Installation and Backup.
Verity HTS files.
I'll need to give this some more thought. I'm intrigued.
Jerry Johnson
No degree. No certs. Lots of audited college classes. Lots of "book learning". Lots of "on the job training".
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Depending on the what the web page does, what systems it integrates with, or
what type of IT support is necessary, yes.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: October 1, 2003 8:34 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CF Salary Range
Do you really think web page development or IT support require the same type
of knowledge and training as a brain surgeon?
THAT is a laugh.
Jerry Johnson
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