geeks know some of that, even if they aren't hardware geeks. Soem have very
deginite opinions about why they got thus and such a part as opposed to
another... they were looking afor someone who knew there was a difference
in other words. Which is not a bad basis for hiring an entry level tech.
That was a big company too, but probably the the ONLY intelligent
discussion I had with management there :)
Dana
S. Isaac Dealey writes:
> Let me guess -- they didn't want to know the specs (ram, cpu, etc)...
> :)
>
> > The best interview question I ever had asked of me (for
> > tech support) -
> > "Describe your computer to me."
>
> > Dana
>
> > Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\) writes:
>
> >> To me, I could care less if they have a cert. It's all
> >> about experience.
> >> That's why doctors have to work in hospitals a few years
> >> before they can
> >> graduate and even then, its more work in the field before
> >> they are given
> >> more advancement.
> >>
> >> One problem I see are these "technical schools" that
> >> promise to have you
> >> in and out in 6 weeks with an MSCE, MCP, CCNA, A+, etc.
> >> They just have
> >> you memorize answers to the tests and send you on your
> >> way. What really
> >> kills me is that they also tell you you will be making
> >> 70k a year as
> >> soon as you graduate and get your first job. That may be
> >> the case with
> >> some people but I don't think the companies hiring them
> >> know much
> >> either.
> >>
> >> I started at the bottom and worked my way up. I was lucky
> >> to find some
> >> small family owned consulting service that was willing to
> >> let me learn
> >> and teach me as I worked there. I made less then 20k a
> >> year but I was
> >> getting real world experience with network, repair,
> >> programming, web
> >> design, concepts, you name it.
> >>
> >> I've worked side by wide with MSCEs who just learned
> >> about computers 12
> >> months before and it shows. They can only troubleshoot
> >> what they know
> >> and not rule out anything outside their scope of
> >> knowledge. I've also
> >> worked with people who started programming on an Apple II
> >> when they were
> >> 6 years old and they are a wealth of knowledge.
> >>
> >> Some kind of mentor program may work. If I was hiring
> >> anyone, I would
> >> really take a look at what they have done with technology
> >> as far as a
> >> hobby and in previous employment.
> >>
> >> IMHO
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:10 PM
> >> To: CF-Community
> >> Subject: Re: Re:CF Salary Range
> >>
> >>
> >> > We need to get out of the certwhore IT mentality, and
> >> > need to realize
> >> that practical experience under the guidance of mentors
> >> is a required
> >> component in create quality IT people.
> >>
> >> Perhaps an apprenticeship program. Or certification that
> >> requires
> >> hands-on
> >> knowledge. I've talked to my share of ignorant MCSEs. But
> >> perhaps the
> >> problem is in THAT certification rather than the whole
> >> certification
> >> concept.
> >>
> >> Dana
> >> _____
> >>
> >> [Todays
>
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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