-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 October 2003 12:45
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: depression
Now here's something interesting I just thought.
Your first post you said drugs are just treating the symptoms and your
opinions on the solution are treating the root cause.
Now I am sure there are some people who get depressed who do not have a
chemical imbalance. But I know there are people far and wide who are
suffering depression because they have a chemical imbalance. Now I do
not know if there is a test to see if there is an imbalance because I've
never had to take one its all questions and answers. I really hope there
is a test for it one day to see. Alas I digress.
So now knowing that some peoples depress is caused by a chemical
imbalance. Would that not make your way of treating it to be treating
the symptoms of the depression (inner problems etc). And then the real
solution would be to fix the problem (chemical imbalance) and that
should resolve the issue?
I'm not trying to be a smart ass it just made me laugh when I was
thinking about it. We all do things our own ways so no worries. I have
seen where people do what you suggest and it works great. The sad thing
is until there is a test to see if you have a real imbalance or if you
have inner problems that are causing the depression we can really never
know the solution to fixing our problems except through trial and error.
That would certainly go a long way to explaining why some people
response excellently to drugs while some people turn into zombies (etc
etc) and really don't seem to respond well to anti-depressants.
Life has plenty of ailments that humans understand very little about.
There are a number of ways to have excuses to have really shitty lives
and blame it on one thing or another. Sometimes life sucks but we just
got to keep on pushing and working towards being happy because everyone
deserves to live a happy life. If we all lived happier lives maybe we
would not have such the madmen in the world that we have today.
Oi reminds me of our 2 year journey to find out what was wrong with my
wife. With her fibromyalgia, nobody believed her etc etc. Some people
still tell me
she was just faking and still is lol. And i always respond great you may
think that but you really didn't watch her face to face for a year slide
slowly down lower and lower, turning from a fun loving full of energy
person into someone who could not get out of bed for days straight. Turn
from someone who loved snuggling and being carassed and touched to
turning into someone who would whine with pain everytime you laid your
hands on her gently.
:> Hopefully i didn't spell definately defiantly anywhere in there lol
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 11:50 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: depression
But there are other ways to treating that imbalance than drus, s'all i'm
saying
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2003 16:46
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re:depression
Mark,
I think you may be missing the fact that AFAIK there's a biochemical
component to depression - imbalance between neurotransmitters in the
brain
(maybe one of the sufferers on the list who knows more about it can
provide
a more correct answer?). Treating that imbalance is not treating
symptoms,
but is treating a chemical cause.
-Ben
>In my opinion leave the doctors alone, they'll only treat the symptoms
and
>probably give you anti-depressants. If there is one thing western
medicine
>could learn from eastern medicine is to look more deeply into the
underlying
>causes of illnesses and not constantly treting symptoms.
>
>My mother has been seriously affected by depression for around 20
years, I
>really don't think the doctors helped. I'm pretty sure its affected me
also,
>especially the past few years. I'd have to say depression is best
dealt
>from a spiritually/mental approach.
>
>I'd recommending looking into some books by the Dalai Lama, there are
some
>really good books. Basically he teaches that Suffering is encountered
by
>everyone (therefore it is both a fact of everyone's life) and that its
every
>human's inherent right to achieve happiness and it is within all of our
>grasps if we want it enough and are willing to act in a way which will
bring
>us happiness. Basically happiness can be achieved through spiritual
and
>mental exercises/frame of mind.
>I'm not a Buddhist par se, but I have found great comfort in those
ideas
>
>I'd recommend this book as a starter
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1573221112/qid=1066831173
/sr=
8
>-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-7460743-2964960?v=glance
><http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1573221112/qid=106683117
3/sr
=
>8-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-7460743-2964960?v=glance&s=books&n=507846>
>&s=books&n=507846
>
>HTH and good luck
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 22 October 2003 14:48
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: depression
>
>
>If you are asking if it is bad, then more then likely it is bad enough.
>Have you talked to a DR?
>
>Robert Bailey
>
>Paul Ihrig wrote on 10/22/2003, 9:45 AM:
>
>> just curious if any one on the list has had it.
>>
>> i have always had it mildly. since i was 12 or so.
>> but was always some thing that seemed to be a layer to my
personality.
>>
>> but lately i cant seem to shake this feeling of dread/hopelessness.
>> i am sure part of it is not working & self esteem.
>>
>> but how do you know when it is bad?
>>
>>
>>
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