beats me too it so i can look at it from other points of view myself.
--
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: depression
Agreed, I hope everyone finds a solution also.
I really didn't mean to cause offense concerning my comments regarding
anti
depressants or the use of them and apologies I if did (which seems to be
the
case).
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 October 2003 12:46
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: depression
True true :> I was not knocking your method either, its very true we
don't have any real way to see what is wrong with a person so its trial
and error until something works :>
And god bless the people who find the key to unlock their problems.
--
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
eDiets.com, Inc.
(OTCBB: EDET)
3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 11:52 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: depression
I treat colds/flu by drinking honey, lemon and ginger with hot water and
taking boiling hot baths with olbas oil, it doesn't cure it but it
helps.
I'm not knocking people who take anti depressants, its whatever works
for
the individual. I have just seen my mother take them constantly for
over 20
years and she now has health problems due to this as well as a serious
dependancy.
Although i'm not knocking them, but sometimes there are other options
which
are ignored by western medicine.
I also know a little of what i'm talking about as I studied a form of
Japanese medicine for 5 years, and they have different opinions for
solving
health problems.
Different approaches, theres no proof 100% either way whos right or
wrong.
I think if the person really believes in the treatment they are
receiving
then its half the battle.
Basically, do what you like. Theres no harm having an open mind
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2003 16:39
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: depression
Those of us who are on antidepressants sometimes face a stigma because
of it. There's also a broad lack of understanding that makes us a bit
defensive. Both add up to a very strong reaction to people who say that
the way we deal with our illness is wrong.
I'm not trying to excuse her, just explain her reaction.
And yes, you are entitled to your own opinion.
Just out of curiosity, how do you treat colds? I'm not trying to be
sarcastic or anything here. I'm just really curious.
--Ben "The Depressed Diplomat" Doom
Mark Smyth wrote:
> Fine, you're welcome to your opinion.
>
>
> Saying that, I'm also welcome to mine. I can just present mine
without
> swearing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 October 2003 16:18
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: depression
>
> Okay, Mark, I have to call bullshit on this. Yes, there is a
> mental/spiritual component to depression. But, there can also be a
very
real
> physical component. (We've been through this before on the list, too.)
Next
> time you get the flu, don't be taking any drugs for it. I expect you
to
> enjoy the suffering and gain enlightenment from it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Smyth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:05 AM
> Subject: RE: depression
>
> > In my opinion leave the doctors alone, they'll only treat the
> symptoms and
> > probably give you anti-depressants. If there is one thing western
> medicine
> > could learn from eastern medicine is to look more deeply into the
> underlying
> > causes of illnesses and not constantly treting symptoms.
> >
> > My mother has been seriously affected by depression for around 20
> years, I
> > really don't think the doctors helped. I'm pretty sure its affected
me
> also,
> > especially the past few years. I'd have to say depression is best
dealt
> > from a spiritually/mental approach.
> >
> > I'd recommending looking into some books by the Dalai Lama, there
are
> some
> > really good books. Basically he teaches that Suffering is
encountered
by
> > everyone (therefore it is both a fact of everyone's life) and that
its
> every
> > human's inherent right to achieve happiness and it is within all of
our
> > grasps if we want it enough and are willing to act in a way which
will
> bring
> > us happiness. Basically happiness can be achieved through
spiritual
and
> > mental exercises/frame of mind.
> > I'm not a Buddhist par se, but I have found great comfort in those
ideas
> >
> > I'd recommend this book as a starter
> >
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1573221112/qid=1066831173/
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/>
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/sr=
8>
>
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/sr=
> 8>
> > -1/ref=sr_8_1/102-7460743-2964960?v=glance
> >
>
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1573221112/qid=1066831173
/sr=
> > 8-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-7460743-2964960?v=glance&s=books&n=507846>
> > &s=books&n=507846
> >
> > HTH and good luck
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 22 October 2003 14:48
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: depression
> >
> >
> > If you are asking if it is bad, then more then likely it is bad
enough.
> > Have you talked to a DR?
> >
> > Robert Bailey
> >
> > Paul Ihrig wrote on 10/22/2003, 9:45 AM:
> >
> > > just curious if any one on the list has had it.
> > >
> > > i have always had it mildly. since i was 12 or so.
> > > but was always some thing that seemed to be a layer to my
personality.
> > >
> > > but lately i cant seem to shake this feeling of
dread/hopelessness.
> > > i am sure part of it is not working & self esteem.
> > >
> > > but how do you know when it is bad?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > _____
> >
> >
> >
> _____
>
>
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