the victim. Of course the degrees are far different, but the basic ethical
question is the same. Does one person have the right to force another to do
something they don't want to do? If not do we as citizens have a
responsibility to defend the victim?
I say we do. I am sure that Paul was not the only person on the street. I
don't think it was his personal failure, rather a failure on a much higher
level. I think our society fails tests like this all the time. The same
self interest that keeps many from joining the military keeps them from
acting in these situations. There are times to put self interest aside.
I must also admit that I am automatically biased against Paul with his
earlier admissions about being unable to support our
military...............................................
Timothy Heald
Information Systems Manager
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
571.345.2319
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:30 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: mugging in cmh
Well,
I think a child being raped and someone stealing a wallet is on
opposite sides of the spectrum. If I ever saw anyone touching a child in
that way I wouldn't hesitate to stop them. Someone losing some money I
would think twice before actually trying to grab them. I would help by
calling the police.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:16 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: mugging in cmh
Yeah, a lot if states have new laws to prohibit the practice.
However I still don't think that relieves any of us of the
responsibility to
come to the aid of those around in situations like this.
I mean I remember not long ago when I a child was raped in New York on
the
side of a road and people just went about their business.
It sickens me.
Timothy Heald
Information Systems Manager
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
571.345.2319
The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S.
Department of State or any affiliated organization(s). Nor have these
opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail
is
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-----Original Message-----
From: Prince Critter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:53 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: mugging in cmh
oi Nick!!
ummmm haven't criminals been successful in suing ppl that have
injured them during home
invasions.... and/or shit like that?
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Monday, October 27, 2003, 9:40:28 AM, you wrote:
NM> Doubt you would be charged unless you did some real damage.
NM> The thief can always turn around and sue you, however, its going to
be
hard
NM> to make a case work if he was fleeing the scene of a crime that he
had
NM> committed.
NM> -----Original Message-----
NM> From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
NM> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:31 AM
NM> To: CF-Community
NM> Subject: RE: mugging in cmh
NM> Hmm...
NM> Let's say that you DO decide to be the upstanding citizen with no
fear
NM> type, and chase after the robber...and corner him...
NM> and then kick the sh** out of him to get him to give back the item,
or
NM> otherwise impede his progress.
NM> In America, would you stand to be charged? Could that thief then
turn
NM> around and sue you?
NM> Are you as a citizen protected by any laws for coming to the aid of
NM> another citizen in this case, after the robbery has already been
NM> committed, and the thief is getting away?
NM> -Gel
NM>
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