honor would require that I do something. I have stopped crimes in progress
on three different occasions.
When we lived in Maine twice one an attempted rape, another a break in on my
premises. In New York my friends and I stopped this guy who was assaulting
his girl friend. The two in Maine I was armed for, in New York I wasn't.
I don't know. I don't see how anyone can sit by for something like that and
not do something. I have always felt a large amount of community
responsibility though, the largest reason I stay in the National Guard, and
am still considering going back on active duty. Too many people in the U.S.
care only about themselves and their rights, never looking at others and our
personal responsibility to each other.
I know this sounds weird coming from me, especially in light of my
libertarian views, but if you look past the surface you'll see that it makes
perfect sense. The people who founded this nation together banded together,
not to financially support each other, but to protect each others rights.
Well people have the right not to be assaulted and robbed on a street.
"He who would give up liberty for security deserves neither" - Ben Franklin,
also paraphrased by Thomas Jefferson in some of his writings.
I think the more that we look at what the founders of this nation believed,
the less we see our current incarnation having in common with what it was
intended. I think honor has it's place in this discussion as well. Honor
was once something worth dying over. Now to many people, people in this
very group, almost nothing is worth that. The only thing worse is that many
of you think nothing is worth killing over.
Wow, strange conversation for so early on a Monday.
Timothy Heald
Information Systems Manager
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
571.345.2319
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:54 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: mugging in cmh
Having seen would-be good samaritans get put into the hospital for their
attempts, I can't blame him. And in one case I saw the chase but didn't know
what was happening and later heard on the news that the good samaritan was
stabbed to death. And I've put myself into a bad situation or two and
wondered why I got myself there.
One of the number-one rules of self-defense is to just give them the wallet.
It's not worth dying over. Protect life and limb, but don't risk it
needlessly.
-Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:23 AM
Subject: RE: mugging in cmh
> sad,
>
> That a man can say such a thing in public and not be ashamed of himself.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:07 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: mugging in cmh
>
>
>
> well yesterday was the strangest in a long time.
> me & my wife are walking to a local breakfast joint.
> its a bit drizzly out.
>
> \across the street there is an older couple & a younger blond.
> all the sudden the blond starts screaming bloody murder!
>
> then running down the street goes by a well dressed mugger.
> i take flight, before thinking.
>
> i know i can catch him with in a 1/2 block.
>
> then all the sudden a switch gets turned on in the old noggin.
> i stop in the middle of the street.
>
> turn & walk back to my wife.
> the blonde continues to chase him around the corner screaming.
>
> just then i hear the screech of tires spinning on wet bricks.
>
> they where a group of three people from Britain.
> kind of sucks, but they probably can afford the loss of a few buck.
>
> i didn't want to get shot or stabbed.
> almost a hero, but free range chicken...
>
>
> _____
>
>
>
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