police because I witnessed a situation where I thought someone was in
danger. Recently, I approached a man that was semi-concious, lying on the
street. I watched all sorts of people simply walk past him. But, I stopped.
It turned out he was really drunk and wanted to be taken to detox. So, I
called the police for him. A few weeks back I was sitting in my car and
watched a guy fall off of his bicycle by the side of the road. I was nursing
my baby and debated going out to check on the guy or finishing what I was
doing. Finally, I decided I had to go help the guy. (Again, it turned out he
was drunk and didn't want help.)
Some day, I'm probably going to wind up getting hurt doing this stuff. But,
the thought never crosses my mind while it's happening.
But, if it comes down to needing to do something violent to stop a crime, I
don't think I'd do it. I'd help the person that was hurt by the crime, but I
wouldn't attack the criminal. That's where I draw the line - I refuse to be
violent.
-d
----- Original Message -----
From: "Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: mugging in cmh
> That rule is, in my not so humble opinion, flawed. Rule of law and
implied
> honor would require that I do something. I have stopped crimes in
progress
> on three different occasions.
>
> When we lived in Maine twice one an attempted rape, another a break in on
my
> premises. In New York my friends and I stopped this guy who was
assaulting
> his girl friend. The two in Maine I was armed for, in New York I wasn't.
>
> I don't know. I don't see how anyone can sit by for something like that
and
> not do something. I have always felt a large amount of community
> responsibility though, the largest reason I stay in the National Guard,
and
> am still considering going back on active duty. Too many people in the
U.S.
> care only about themselves and their rights, never looking at others and
our
> personal responsibility to each other.
>
> I know this sounds weird coming from me, especially in light of my
> libertarian views, but if you look past the surface you'll see that it
makes
> perfect sense. The people who founded this nation together banded
together,
> not to financially support each other, but to protect each others rights.
> Well people have the right not to be assaulted and robbed on a street.
>
> "He who would give up liberty for security deserves neither" - Ben
Franklin,
> also paraphrased by Thomas Jefferson in some of his writings.
>
> I think the more that we look at what the founders of this nation
believed,
> the less we see our current incarnation having in common with what it was
> intended. I think honor has it's place in this discussion as well. Honor
> was once something worth dying over. Now to many people, people in this
> very group, almost nothing is worth that. The only thing worse is that
many
> of you think nothing is worth killing over.
>
> Wow, strange conversation for so early on a Monday.
>
> Timothy Heald
> Information Systems Manager
> Overseas Security Advisory Council
> U.S. Department of State
> 571.345.2319
>
> The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S.
> Department of State or any affiliated organization(s). Nor have these
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:54 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: mugging in cmh
>
>
> Having seen would-be good samaritans get put into the hospital for their
> attempts, I can't blame him. And in one case I saw the chase but didn't
know
> what was happening and later heard on the news that the good samaritan was
> stabbed to death. And I've put myself into a bad situation or two and
> wondered why I got myself there.
>
> One of the number-one rules of self-defense is to just give them the
wallet.
> It's not worth dying over. Protect life and limb, but don't risk it
> needlessly.
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:23 AM
> Subject: RE: mugging in cmh
>
> > sad,
> >
> > That a man can say such a thing in public and not be ashamed of himself.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:07 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: mugging in cmh
> >
> >
> >
> > well yesterday was the strangest in a long time.
> > me & my wife are walking to a local breakfast joint.
> > its a bit drizzly out.
> >
> > \across the street there is an older couple & a younger blond.
> > all the sudden the blond starts screaming bloody murder!
> >
> > then running down the street goes by a well dressed mugger.
> > i take flight, before thinking.
> >
> > i know i can catch him with in a 1/2 block.
> >
> > then all the sudden a switch gets turned on in the old noggin.
> > i stop in the middle of the street.
> >
> > turn & walk back to my wife.
> > the blonde continues to chase him around the corner screaming.
> >
> > just then i hear the screech of tires spinning on wet bricks.
> >
> > they where a group of three people from Britain.
> > kind of sucks, but they probably can afford the loss of a few buck.
> >
> > i didn't want to get shot or stabbed.
> > almost a hero, but free range chicken...
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> >
> _____
>
>
>
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