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From: Philip Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:39 pm
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Phantom Game info link

> > Yes, but PCs are completely upgradable.
>
> Really? Even the $400 ones which are being pushed now with a built-in
> graphics card and small foot-print that can't have a replacement
> graphics card or motherboard?
>
> How about making a SWEEPING statement <g>

Ok, fine, some PCs are completely upgradable.

>
> > It's pretty easy to buy a very good PC that plays games very
> > well for well under $2000.
>
> But you've been going on about a machine being out of date as soon as
> it's released - you'd have to get top of the line processor, memory,
> hard disk and graphics card... And for that you're talking $2,000

I never said it was out of date.  I said that there will come a point in time where the Phantom's upgradability options will be quite limited, due to the progress of PC technology.

Assuming, of course, that the Phantom is upgradable.

>
> > $1000?  I just upgraded my system for about CAD$400, and that
> > was a new motherboard, proc, memory and case.
>
> What about a top of the line graphics card?
>
> And for CAD$400 there is NO WAY you've got a top of the line
> processor!

Who said top of the line?  Why do I need a top of the line processor for?

> Upgrading a system to the not-latest specs is what you've been moaning
> about

I haven't been moaning about anything.  You, on the other hand, have your panties in a bunch.

- you're already out of date, so you'd better go an re-buy
> all of
> your new components

Why?

>
> Let's see, you brought up DDR2 recently - I bet your new memory isn't
> that :P

No.  So what?

> Personally I keep my PCs for work and my consoles for play - it's
> why my
> machine is Windows 2000

Lots of people don't.  I don't.  I haven't bought a console in years.

> > Why not get little Johnny a PS1 then?  Lot cheaper than a
> > Phantom, and little Johnny doesn't care otherwise.  And if
> > they did get a Phantom, they'd have to rebuy any games they
> > currently have.  Pretty expensive, if you ask me.
>
> If you want to buy Johnny a PS1, then why not go even older and
> buy him
> a NES? They're REAL cheap with loads of games on eBay :P

Yup.  That's another option.

>
> You want to give him a machine that's well over 5 years old (PS1),
> thenyou're REALLY talking old spec - why not give him an Atari
> 2600 while
> you're at it :P

Sure.  I guess you agree with me then that the Phantom is overkill then for little Johnny.

>
> > Judging from the rabid reactions from the Phantom message
> > boards, it's people that want a top of the line system that
> > they can use in their living room.
>
> In which case they're not gonna get a "top of the line" system for
> $500are they?

Nope.  So then, who is the Phantom for?  You said that little Johnny gets to have a NES/Atari 2600, and the rabid fans want to get something more powerful than the Phantom.

>
> I want a BMW Z4 but only pay $1,000 - can I have one of those please?

Sure.  I have a paypal account you can put the money in.  Expect delivery next week.
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