They called it Dionysus.
The greek god of wine.
But honestly, thats a really poor example considering the _majority_ of the population was controlled with fear of vengeful gods.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 02:37 AM
> To: 'CF-Community'
> Subject: RE: The catholic church (final thoughts on gibson)
>
> Why does it have to come from religion. The Greek philosophers came
> up with a very good system for living the "good" life without
> reference to superstitious beliefs or religion. Morality and ethics
> are independent of religious thought.
>
> larry
>
> >You may be correct about the injustices and evils that the catholic
> >church has wrought on the world over time, as have many ruling political
> >institutions.
> >
> >However, do you see any need at all for organised religion of any form
> >in the world today?
> >
> >Where did your notion of 'morality', right and wrong, and a basis for
> >the system of ethics by which you now live in western society,
> >ultimately come from?
> >
> >-Gel
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Heald, Tim
> >
> >I took my first communion and confirmation. The only reason they got to
> >me
> >then was because I was young and inexperienced.
> >
> > Funny what I remember is that pagan Ireland kept history and
> >civilization
> >alive when the catholic church plunged Europe into the dark ages.
> >Again,
> >where are you getting your facts from?
> >
> >Open a book. Open your mind.
> >--
> >Timothy Heald
> >
> >
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