emperor Marcus Aurelius, and the other classical Greek philosophers
that eventually lead to the stoicism school. A very strong system of
moral philosophy without religious referent.
larry
>Very true.
>
>They called it Dionysus.
>
>The greek god of wine.
>
>But honestly, thats a really poor example considering the _majority_
>of the population was controlled with fear of vengeful gods.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 02:37 AM
>> To: 'CF-Community'
>> Subject: RE: The catholic church (final thoughts on gibson)
>>
>> Why does it have to come from religion. The Greek philosophers came
>> up with a very good system for living the "good" life without
>> reference to superstitious beliefs or religion. Morality and ethics
>> are independent of religious thought.
>>
>> larry
>>
>> >You may be correct about the injustices and evils that the catholic
>> >church has wrought on the world over time, as have many ruling political
>> >institutions.
>> >
>> >However, do you see any need at all for organised religion of any form
>> >in the world today?
>> >
>> >Where did your notion of 'morality', right and wrong, and a basis for
>> >the system of ethics by which you now live in western society,
>> >ultimately come from?
>> >
>> >-Gel
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Heald, Tim
>> >
>> >I took my first communion and confirmation. The only reason they got to
>> >me
>> >then was because I was young and inexperienced.
>> >
>> > Funny what I remember is that pagan Ireland kept history and
>> >civilization
>> >alive when the catholic church plunged Europe into the dark ages.
>> >Again,
>> >where are you getting your facts from?
>> >
>> >Open a book. Open your mind.
>> >--
>> >Timothy Heald
>> >
>> >
>> >
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