Sorry,  photo must have been stripped off.  Visualize view over drivers
shoulder with child on hood of car, white knuckled holding on to the edge of
the hood between hood and windshield mouth wide open in scream.  In front of
the car is one of the radar-speed signs flashing 99
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Robyn Follen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:28 AM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: RE: TOUGH LOVE vs SPANKING

  I pictured a kid duct taped to the top of the car.  :-)  Was I close?

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:23 AM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: TOUGH LOVE vs SPANKING

  My guess is that the message was a straightman for the picture which was
  probably a humorously outrageous polar opposite. The text was probably
  intended to draw in the very type of attitude you expressed in your reply.
  In other words: sucker! But without the picture, that's pure speculation.

  -Kevin

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Lyons, Larry"

  > The photo is also very blank.
  >
  > The problem with physical punishment is that it reinforces the punishing
  > behavior by the person spanking the kid. Given classic reinforcement
  theory
  > then, you're more likely to physically punish the kid again.
  >
  > This isn't to say that spanking should not be used, but you should be very
  > careful about using it. Speaking like former psychologist here. When I've
  > done behavioral analyses on similar situations, I've found that if done
  > right punishment usually serves to disrupt the behavior long enough for
  > learning to take place, theoretically. Then you can set things up to allow
  > for more acceptable competing behaviors to be reinforced.
  >
  > However all too often punishment only serves to reward the person doing
  the
  > punishment.
  >
  > But what you're doing is probably as effective in most situations.
  >
  > larry
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