Fine Matt,  I'm right, you're wrong.  We'll all deal with it.

Imagine a e-commerce site in Flash and in HTML.

A user comes in and compares multiple products, over and over again
because they can't make up their mind and because they don't care about
how much data they take in.

In Flash, with every product page load the Flash player calls for a gets
the product description and a jpg.

In HTML each click loads a whole page, header - footer and all.  Over
and over again.

In THIS case I see Flash taking less bandwidth.

App #2 - a rich app with video and bells and whistles.  You already know
you're going to be spending bandwidth.  You pretty much have to use
Flash to do it nicely, or use Quicktime or something else less elegant.
But you're using video and you know it, so you have different bandwidth
concerns already.

Flash applications add possibilities.  One is saving bandwidth, another
is using bandwidth.  Depends on each individual application.

I think everyone is done hearing me say the same thing for the third
time.  The thing is I, like you, like to have a final word from time to
time.  We'll all wait for your response to finish this.  I'm going to go
to the baseball game, drink $1 beers, go home and pass out.

Cheers,

t

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?


> If your whole site is in Flash it loads once.  The Flash movie is
equal
> to one or two rich HTML pages in size.  Perform more than two
functions
> on your site and you're then passing less data than you would via
HTML.
> That's the simplified version of how it works.  I doubt Talkers really

> cares more about it than that, unless they're actually building an
app.
> Then it's worth it to go into the specifics.
> 
You are making assumptions. Flash gives you the ability to do things you
couldn't do before in html, which could required higher bandwidth than
the equivalent application using html. While the extra bandwidth may be
worth it for a better experience, the extra bandwidth is still there.
Flash applications do not inherently save bandwidth.

-Matt


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