Ben, Not to nitpick, but optimizing graphics in an HTML page has an exact corollary to optimizing a flash movie. Using symbols, clips, pre-loading, bit depth, minimizing the number of bitmaps that are imported etc. All contribute to the swf file size. So it IS possible to create 2 very similar movies that load very differently and use resources differently. For my take, it's the bandwidth utilization after the UI is loaded (the initial flash movie) that shows the real promise.
-mk -----Original Message----- From: Ben Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? > I would think any competent UI person would consider usability an > inherent business requirement. So obviously, if the UI feels slow or > klunky to the user than it isn't really usable. However, that doesn't > mean that performance and bandwidth are a consideration. This thread > started out comparing the bandwidth utilization of html based web > applications vs. Flash applications. The statement was that the Flash > application would use less bandwidth. So, let's assume that two Flash > applications had a similar UI, but were implemented differently. The > first UI used considerably less bandwidth than the second, but both used > less bandwidth than their html equivalents. Additionally, let's assume > that the first UI used less bandwidth because the Flash developer spent > time trying to reduce the bandwidth usage. Matt, I think I fail to understand your point still. Can you give a concrete example? So far you've only given generalizations. Can you elaborate? For example, how was the first Flash movie made to use less bandwidth? When it comes to Flash, it's difficult to decrease the amount of bandwidth from one Flash movie to the next simply because it's all basic data. When you compare HTML pages, you can take out or optimize graphics. Also, I don't think I agree with your first statement entirely. You state that: "if the UI feels slow or klunky to the user than it isn't really usable. However, that doesn't mean that performance and bandwidth are a consideration". While I believe there are many considerations for UI, I don't know how you could say that performance and bandwidth simply aren't a consideration. Perhaps they are less significant at times, but rarely are they not a consideration. Ben Johnson ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists

