sorry - don't want to start a bicker - but on this one -I personally
wouldn't higher a flash developer that could not design a UI that meets
business requirements while being a little light and bandwidth
conscious.

no ill intentions.
jay miller

Matt Liotta wrote:


That is absolutely not true. A good Flash developer will create a UI
that meets the business requirements of the application and allows a
user to easily make use of it. That may or may not use more bandwidth
than an html based application with the same business requirements.

Matt Liotta
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wille, Paul [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?

And you are making assumptions as well here.  A *GOOD* Flash developer
would design the Flash interface to be lightweight, preload once (or

as

minimal as possible), and minimize the size of his/her Flash movies.

No

different is the argument that CFML is slow.  Those of us that know

CFML

know that any poor developer can write bad CFML that will inherently

be

slow.

I fail to understand your point of view on this.  I think you can see
where I am coming from.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Liotta [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?


If your whole site is in Flash it loads once.  The Flash movie is

equal

to one or two rich HTML pages in size.  Perform more than two

functions

on your site and you're then passing less data than you would via

HTML.

That's the simplified version of how it works.  I doubt Talkers

really

cares more about it than that, unless they're actually building an

app.

Then it's worth it to go into the specifics.


You are making assumptions. Flash gives you the ability to do things

you

couldn't do before in html, which could required higher bandwidth than
the equivalent application using html. While the extra bandwidth may

be

worth it for a better experience, the extra bandwidth is still there.
Flash applications do not inherently save bandwidth.

-Matt





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